Powerboost vs ecoboost

[jd281]

I've had mine now for 2 days and I love this truck! Reliability and towing will determine whether I stay in love with it but the acceleration and ride are exceptional in the Powerboost. It's just been short hops thus far but I'm doing about 25% of my miles in electric mode. I'm road tripping this weekend so that'll skew the mix heavily towards the ICE but that's ok. As fuel prices rise back up to pre-pandemic levels I'll be very happy for every electric mile I get out of it.

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[prairieguy]

I’m not sure of the up charge for the powerboost in the US but in Canada it seems pretty high. Its all in how Ford puts their packages together. On a 302a a 2.7 is $900 above the base 3.3v6, 3.5eb is $3350 a 5.0 is $3500. Powerboost is $5750 plus it automatically includes the 2.4 propower for another $2000. On top of all this right now Ford is offering a $4000 incentive on a F150 but only $2000 on the powerboost. I love the idea of it but thats $6400.00. That’s a lot of fuel. If you were to take a 2.7 that’s $8550. Depending on your needs your paying a lot for the powerboost.

 

[Norheat]

I’m not sure of the up charge for the powerboost in the US but in Canada it seems pretty high. Its all in how Ford puts their packages together. On a 302a a 2.7 is $900 above the base 3.3v6, 3.5eb is $3350 a 5.0 is $3500. Powerboost is $5750 plus it automatically includes the 2.4 propower for another $2000. On top of all this right now Ford is offering a $4000 incentive on a F150 but only $2000 on the powerboost. I love the idea of it but thats $6400.00. That’s a lot of fuel. If you were to take a 2.7 that’s $8550. Depending on your needs your paying a lot for the powerboost.

I paid $2200 extra for my Powerboost. I believe that it was almost the same price as the the 5.0 when I purchased it back in September 2020. 502A Lariat. The built in generator has value like you suggested. If I was only driving around 20 thousand Kms per year, it would take approximately 2.5 years to pay for the engine. I am saving $40 plus on each fill up, when compared to my 2018, 5.0 and I travel just as far.

Having driven all the engine options, I would say that so far the PB is as advertised and worth the extra up front. It is that good.

 

[C130]

From my very little experience (500 miles) so far with the Powerboost I’m pretty impressed. I think it really depends on the type of driving one does. My wife and I went to Costco yesterday and the traffic was terrible, lots of stop and go. Distance was only about 18 miles but averaged 27 mpg on that short trip. It seems the big benefit is in slow, congested traffic.

 

[clayjoe]

And when you put your PB into Sort mode...
I bought it for all the things you guys talked about: MPGs and the generator for camping/tailgating
I had to have it cause of Sport mode lol.

 

[Rich1982]

I originally wasn’t really interested in the Powerboost. I drove one and liked it but then did the cost comparison vs. the 3.5 Ecoboost. Financially, I can’t say it really made any sense due to the time it’ll take to break even. But, after driving the Powerboost I knew I wanted one. I’ve only had it for two days so can’t really give any meaningful feedback on it yet. It does seem that the more slow, city driving you do the more you’ll save in gas.

But did you compare optioned truck cost? In my case witht he 3.5 EB I would add the locking rea/3.55, the 36gal tank and the 2.0kw propower - with the 3.5 PB You get locking rear/3.73, you get 30.6gal tank and comes with 2.4kw prpower - net is SAME COST! then you might get better MPG and have more HP/Torque - seems like the break even will occur before you leave the dealers lot

 

[C130]

I can’t really say as I did compare the 3.5 Ecoboost optioned the way I wanted it vs. The Powerboost. Glad you brought it up though, makes even more sense to get the Powerboost. I definitely wanted the larger fuel tank and at least the 2.4 KW generator. I didn’t really have a need for the 7.2KW generator but wouldn’t have not bought the truck if it had it. My biggest issue was finding the truck I wanted with such little inventory. Luckily, I found the exact truck, color, options, I wanted. Bought it a little over three hours away but we were visiting my son in college anyways so it worked out great.

 

[r.ellison2010]

I paid $2200 extra for my Powerboost. I believe that it was almost the same price as the the 5.0 when I purchased it back in September 2020. 502A Lariat. The built in generator has value like you suggested. If I was only driving around 20 thousand Kms per year, it would take approximately 2.5 years to pay for the engine. I am saving $40 plus on each fill up, when compared to my 2018, 5.0 and I travel just as far.

Having driven all the engine options, I would say that so far the PB is as advertised and worth the extra up front. It is that good.

Also more power...

 

[Dan]

Well I was going to get the 5.0L and add a supercharger to it. When I found out it had new deactivation cycles, I didn't want the problems GM and ram had with their trucks. So I cancelled my order and reordered a powerboost hybrid. 430hp and 23- 28 mpg is just a bonus. The powerboost is the fastest truck for price. To beat the hp in any other truck make, GM Chevy ram and so on, you will have to spend over $100k to even get close to hp a f150 pb puts out at $55k. It's a no brainer, you get hp when needed and you get great mpg when you want.

 

[Norheat]

Also more power...

Absolutely, 2, 0 to 60 mph times at 5.2 seconds timed.
The PB is a Rocket that gets 24 mpg ??

 

[prairieguy]

Pricing is different up Canada. Even the packages up here are different. A 302a has a lot more options then a 302a in the USA. But with the powerboost it’s ALOT more. Even against any other engine. Here on an XLT it’s a $5750 option above the base engine and the propower is not included in that. It’s an additional $2000. But it does come with a locking rear end. It weird when I look at B&P a 5.0 is $3550 option and a 3.5EB IS $3250. In the US the 5.0 is $2000 and the 3.5EB is $2500. So I see the appeal. If you wanted the propower and a locking diff it’s only $500 more. It’s a no brainer. But up here it would still be substantially more. 3.5 EB plus 1k for the propower and $500 for the diff puts you at 5k. The powerboost would be $7750.

 

[PJBecker]

When I see those mpg numbers I don't see them as a spec, but as a CHALLENGE. Like Ford is daring me to try to beat their crappy number. So I will not be having my fun with the turbo-ing I will be having fun trying to beat that 24mpg. There will be a lot more tools with the live fuel consumption, eco mode, and practicing electric only driving. I will be geeking out playing with it!

I ran my cost/benefit at $3 and $3.50 per gallon (california here) and still came out to about 50-60k miles before breaking even. However, one factor that could sway this big time is people that WOULD have bought a generator and took it along for dry camping. That adds maybe a hundred lbs back if you got the ecoboost, plus those dollars spent on the generator add to the EB cost of ownership. But only IF you would need a generator. If you are like me, you would never have bought or brought a generator, so the PB just adds capability to pull over at any truck stop, BLM land, walmart, cabela's, etc, and have power for microwaves, TV, gaming, charging, cpap machine, you name it.

Overall, I agree it is "hard to say" since not everything you give up or gain has a direct $$$ value.

I too, see those numbers as a challenge. I've had my PB for about 2 months and I drive approx 33 miles, one way, to work. Because of my early start time, I'm able to really try to get maximum mpg without upsetting too many others with slow starts and early slowdowns. If I stay off the freeway, I have a personal best of 27.7 mpg. With freeway driving I've don about 24.5 mpg. We'll see what it gets when it's warmer.

Pete

 

[currybob]

I too, see those numbers as a challenge. I've had my PB for about 2 months and I drive approx 33 miles, one way, to work. Because of my early start time, I'm able to really try to get maximum mpg without upsetting too many others with slow starts and early slowdowns. If I stay off the freeway, I have a personal best of 27.7 mpg. With freeway driving I've don about 24.5 mpg. We'll see what it gets when it's warmer.

Pete

That is some good results! Yeah, you should see even better with warmer weather.

 

[Dave55N]

Pricing is different up Canada. Even the packages up here are different. A 302a has a lot more options then a 302a in the USA. But with the powerboost it’s ALOT more. Even against any other engine. Here on an XLT it’s a $5750 option above the base engine and the propower is not included in that. It’s an additional $2000. But it does come with a locking rear end. It weird when I look at B&P a 5.0 is $3550 option and a 3.5EB IS $3250. In the US the 5.0 is $2000 and the 3.5EB is $2500. So I see the appeal. If you wanted the propower and a locking diff it’s only $500 more. It’s a no brainer. But up here it would still be substantially more. 3.5 EB plus 1k for the propower and $500 for the diff puts you at 5k. The powerboost would be $7750.

I think you mean $4850 more for PB and it does come with the 2.4 kw pro-power on board. What exactly comes with the “Canadian” 302a package that our neighbours to the south don’t get?

 

[daemonic3]

I too, see those numbers as a challenge. I've had my PB for about 2 months and I drive approx 33 miles, one way, to work. Because of my early start time, I'm able to really try to get maximum mpg without upsetting too many others with slow starts and early slowdowns. If I stay off the freeway, I have a personal best of 27.7 mpg. With freeway driving I've don about 24.5 mpg. We'll see what it gets when it's warmer.

Pete

Did you see my experiment for freeway speeds? I tested 10th gear and found an equation:

55mph is where I can "run up the scoreboard" at 28MPG but it is also a very annoying speed unless you are on a 2 lane highway. And I lose about 1/2MPG for every MPH above that. I haven't done further testing below 55mpg or where it switches to 8th or 9th.

In town I can "run up the scoreboard" on fairly smooth surface streets where 25-40mph is normal and there aren't too many full stops. The alternating between electric and hybrid really optimizes gas on these things in that speed range. 40mph in 8th gear seemed pretty efficient but I didn't do official tests, things kept knocking me out of 40mph by getting in my way.

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