Heavy Duty Payload Package and PowerBoost or Lariat/King Ranch/Limited

[DANNER]

According to: 2021 F-150 Weights & Specs

Nice! I was looking for something like this.

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[tzb]

Does anyone know why you cannot order the HDPP for any higher trim than the XLT Mid? This has been driving me absolutely bonkers. It seems completely arbitrary and rather short-sighted.

 

[imnuts]

Because Ford said so. Doubt you're ever going to get an official answer anywhere, just guesses. Best guess, they don't want to take away sales from higher trimmed Super Duty trucks.

 

[tzb]

Thanks. If you are right, that is still ridiculously myopic. There are many who simply will not buy a super duty and would rather adjust payload than kick it up to super duty for a variety of reasons. What they are missing is that these same people would, however, gladly pay for the HDPP upgrade. I guess I will have to put this in the same category as the reason they refuse to tell you specific payload as built online (though they could very easily do so). Exceedingly frustrating and stupid.

 

[Pedaldude]

Pretty certain that the decision is not Ford's to make; that they are hamstrung by CAFE standards and the F-150 is impacted by this, along with the unintended consequences of people going with the 12MPG Superduty, instead of a 16MPG fully optioned out F-150.

 

[hotrodmex]

Pretty certain that the decision is not Ford's to make; that they are hamstrung by CAFE standards and the F-150 is impacted by this, along with the unintended consequences of people going with the 12MPG Superduty, instead of a 16MPG fully optioned out F-150.

I would think CAFE would help them in this case, as the F-250 is not counted in CAFE by being "10,000GVWR or over." F-250 don't get rated for EPA fuel economy. It would help them to push people into F-250 to sell less F-150 proportional to their CAFE totals. Unless that's what you were saying? I can't tell.

I don't think it's as diabolical as to push people into F-250s. The more options you have, the more there is to stock, keep track of, and manage. The frame is a very specific, complex thing. Even something like a specific paint color has to come out of a certain paint color has to come out of a specific factory. My guess is they looked at how many people were buying it in Lariat back when you could, and it wasn't worth keeping it around.

 

[Roscopcoletrain]

Don't forget what payload is. You start adding all the gizmos and fancy stuff of the higher trims and it starts taking away from that payload. To me, thats a big reason why its only offered in the lower trim models.

 

[Kidder]

Don't forget what payload is. You start adding all the gizmos and fancy stuff of the higher trims and it starts taking away from that payload. To me, thats a big reason why its only offered in the lower trim models.

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[Atlee]

Thanks. If you are right, that is still ridiculously myopic. There are many who simply will not buy a super duty and would rather adjust payload than kick it up to super duty for a variety of reasons. What they are missing is that these same people would, however, gladly pay for the HDPP upgrade. I guess I will have to put this in the same category as the reason they refuse to tell you specific payload as built online (though they could very easily do so). Exceedingly frustrating and stupid.

I would have loved the HDPP on my Power Boost. The PB's are cargo capacity challenged from the beginning.

 

[UGADawg96]

I would have loved the HDPP on my Power Boost. The PB's are cargo capacity challenged from the beginning.

yeah, I would have loved to add HDPP to my 302a Sport PB 157" so I could have another ~700 lbs of payload.

 

[780]

I think if Ford made the F-150 Hybrid a 30kWh plug-in (like the Lincoln) it would take away Lightning sales (and generally be a better truck for long distance and towing even with only 1.5kWh and a 40hp motor.

That I would have bought.

For my use case, PowerBoost wasn't worth it and not ready for a full EV like the Lightening.

Although it would depend on the payload rating as well as I tow and need to keep an eye on that.

 

[780]

Thanks. If you are right, that is still ridiculously myopic. There are many who simply will not buy a super duty and would rather adjust payload than kick it up to super duty for a variety of reasons. What they are missing is that these same people would, however, gladly pay for the HDPP upgrade. I guess I will have to put this in the same category as the reason they refuse to tell you specific payload as built online (though they could very easily do so). Exceedingly frustrating and stupid.

Yep. I'd be in the queue. I would have loved to have HDPP on a 302a. Still not sure why you can't. You used to be able to get a 500a Lariat HDPP.....

 

[Roscopcoletrain]

Yep. I'd be in the queue. I would have loved to have HDPP on a 302a. Still not sure why you can't. You used to be able to get a 500a Lariat HDPP.....

Sure would be nice. The better headlights, and heated/cooled seats would be a welcome upgrade over the 301a.

 

[RociPB]

PB also has 3 leaf springs like the HDPP.

Hybrid battery packs are heavy. I absolutely believe that the battery alone is probably 500lb by itself. Also the added weight of the additional cooling the battery system needs should also be considered.

Coming in way late on this, but was reading this thread and saw your profile pic. See my username? My truck name is “Rocinanate” in the ford pass app, and I have always wanted to give my girl an exterior detail that only fans of the show would notice, and I really like your logo subtly placed on the back window. I wanted to put “TACHI” on the roof in white or something like that, but there aren’t that many options for buying vinyls online because it is a smaller fan base compared to something like Star Wars.

 

[wayfarer556]

Coming in way late on this, but was reading this thread and saw your profile pic. See my username? My truck name is “Rocinanate” in the ford pass app, and I have always wanted to give my girl an exterior detail that only fans of the show would notice, and I really like your logo subtly placed on the back window. I wanted to put “TACHI” on the roof in white or something like that, but there aren’t that many options for buying vinyls online because it is a smaller fan base compared to something like Star Wars.

You are the first person to get it! My truck's name Bobby, hotspot is "MCRN-Tightbeam-Relay" lol.
Love the name of your truck. I think a "Tachi" or even a "Baratnas Gas" logo would be super fitting for yours. I got my sticker from Redbubble, they have a decent amount of Expanse stuff these days.

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