Rented a 5.0, some interesting notables

[WhiteLightningnshitshadow]

Ended up getting upgraded to a ccsb v8 2wd with 4k miles.

First I want to start by saying the 5.0 is the best engine. Having experience with the 3.5 and 2.7, ain't close. The responsiveness is great and the four cyl shift is great. Gas mileage was actually very good and only a hair lower than my
typical 2.7 mileage with careful driving. This thing is fast. Linear power bands are so underrated.

The driveshaft was a very different black painted 2pc connecting to the larger rear end. My truck is a bare aluminum thicker shaft to the smaller super 8.8 rear. The pinion seal was leaking pretty bad. Didn't stop the burning rubber lol.

Lots of rust on the brake fittings, rear axle, and some even showing on the frame holes. I assume this was a 23 because the software was ahead of my 22.

Lots of wheel hop.

I appreciated the Detroit map on the trim instead of the ugly 90s gray door trim mine has.

The transmission seemed smoother, but that mightve had to do with the significantly higher morning temps in Florida. My first shift of the day is a very rough 1st to 3rd. This truck was buttery.

The center console shifter is objectively cheap garbage, even compared to my 2014 mustang. It feels hollow, creaks, is awkward given the armrest position, and is huge which makes using selectshift very weird.

Also noticable was the stiffness of the turnsignal. About 50% of the actuations were very stiff and I can't explain it.

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[MJG44]

I've experienced the other EBs like you and couldn't agree more, the 5.0 is fantastic

 

[Titanium92]

Before I purchased my used 2021 5.0, I really wanted the 2.7 based on all the praise it has online. We wanted a truck to do the occasional hauling, but also to lug the kids around in here and there so fuel economy is somewhat important. Did research for months and months and finally settled on a F150 but the 5.0 V8 was my last choice.

Did an extended test drive in a 2018 2.7 EB. I like it. 19/23 City/Hwy based on what vehicle told me.

Borrowed my friend's 2017 3.5 EB for a couple days. Felt and sounded almost exactly like the 2.7. Got 22mph HWY but city was 15!!?

Finally decided to drive 1.5 hours away to look at a 2021 F150 5.0. Test drove it and the first thing I noticed was how quiet it was. Everybody was telling me to get the V8 cause the sound is intoxicating. Really? I can barely hear anything haha!! Maybe cause I have fast cars in the garage so my expectations for sound was different. Anyway after the drive I bought it because in the CITY I was getting 18.5mpg in it. By the time I got home, the computer was telling me my AVG MPG was 22, and that was with me giving a few nice pulls along the way. I'm completely blown away by how they achieved that. In my 2014 Silverado 5.3 V8 I'd get 16mpg AVG on that same trip.

Crazy how my last choice ended up being my final choice and I love it!

 

[astro_fusion]

The torque curve you like is more consistent and user friendly than the 3.5 or 2.7 yes, but it is not at all linear compared to them. Elevation has a huge part in this also. Driving turbo motors at elevation and then renting a NA 5.0 at sea level could have some false seat of pants feels.

 

[JExpedition07]

The truck variant of the 5.0L is pretty flat/linear in power delivery, more rpm=more power consistently. There are no ‘dips’ or valleys in the curve like with the 2.7 as RPM increases. At 1,500 rpm the 5.0 is all ready making close to 300 lb ft of torque and power comes on steady until redline. Pretty linear if you ask me. Torque peak is 410 lb ft @4,250 but anything at or over 3,000 rpm is in the 400 lb ft range. It’s a broad/ truck friendly curve.

Note this is 2021+ truck variant 5.0, older versions and the Mustang variant of the engine have much peakier power curves with dips etc. The current F-150 iteration is the best by far imo, the current camshafts with the upgraded throttle body/intake manifold made vast overall improvements:

 

[WhiteLightningnshitshadow]

Yeah I just hate the slightest turbo delay. It seems like the turbo cars try to hold onto a gear when put under heavy load much longer than the 5.0 did.

So I'm very curious about the 2 piece driveshaft. I thought that was only done on the longer wheelbase crew cab standard beds and scab long beds? I think it's a steel shaft too simply because it's painted unlike my aluminum shaft.

 

[JExpedition07]

Yeah I just hate the slightest turbo delay. It seems like the turbo cars try to hold onto a gear when put under heavy load much longer than the 5.0 did.

So I'm very curious about the 2 piece driveshaft. I thought that was only done on the longer wheelbase crew cab standard beds and scab long beds? I think it's a steel shaft too simply because it's painted unlike my aluminum shaft.

My STX 145” WB has the same fat one piece aluminum driveshaft that you describe on your truck. Maybe it is a 2WD thing because the rental has no transfer case?

 

[RLTW175]

My '21 Screw was a 2.7 with minor bolt-on mods. Loved that truck (RIP), and it towed my trailered pits just fine. But my new '23 Screw has the 5.0, and man, there is a substantial difference in giddy-up with and without the trailer.

 

[astro_fusion]

Those dyno charts are a bit deceptive with that large of a Y scale. Though they still show that the 5.0 keeps building power and the tq peaks not plateau's like the little turbo motors. Definitely and exciting combo and practical for many uses. The 3.5 and 2.7 make power more like a turbo diesel, and should be driven as such, the TQ plateau's early and not exciting.

 

[JExpedition07]

I see what you are saying with the y-axis, since it is showing a supercharger package out of Fords catalog as a comparo it makes a big y-axis. It still shows the whole picture though.

Here are 5-star wheel dyno results for the stock 5.0 from 2022. Purple is stock 87 octane and Blue is stock 93 octane. Red is tuned. Graph one is the readings at 5,300 rpm cross of hp/tq and second graph is the 4,250 peak torque. Pretty good #’s for stock, about 370 RWHP and 390 lb ft of torque at the wheel on premium which hints that the 5.0 is making more power/torque at the crankshaft than Fords claimed figures since 12-15% losses are expected to the wheel. 390 lb ft at the wheel translates to 5% loss of 410….way more likely the 5.0 is making 425-430 lb ft at the crank with these wheel readings. By the way this shows a 30 horsepower difference between 87 octane and 93 octane stock folks, where is Gros Venture when you need him?

 

[MikeyDog]

With my 2023 Supercrew, 6.5' bed, 373 rear, and 5.0 I'm averaging a combined 20.3 mpg from day one. Current mileage is about 6k with one oil change so far. Very pleased to say the least. My wife's puny Forester is only getting 26 mpg. She is a little heavy on the right foot, but still.

 

[Samson16]

With my 2023 Supercrew, 6.5' bed, 373 rear, and 5.0 I'm averaging a combined 20.3 mpg from day one. Current mileage is about 6k with one oil change so far. Very pleased to say the least. My wife's puny Forester is only getting 26 mpg. She is a little heavy on the right foot, but still.

Isn't 20mpg the EPA combined mpg value for the 5.0 2wd?

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