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Winter Weather Advisory: MPG and your Powerboost Hybrid in Cold Weather

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I remember a Jan funeral, about 30 yrs ago, in ND where we put charcoal under the cars so they would start lol. Now I have a heated garage so at least on one end it shouldn't be an issue :)
I remember my dad doing the same thing with charcoal under the oil pan in the Early 70’s to get our 1964 Ford Gallaxy 500 started here in Northern Michigan.
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I'd suggest to anyone to do this test. Since MPG is an indicator of engine load and stress, try this:

Do a cold morning routine without warming at idle, and go your first 5 minutes. Look at your MPGs.

Then on a different identical morning, be fair, do that first 5 minute drive after a good warmup. Drive the same. Check those MPGs. With this scenario you should shut off and restart the F150 to restart the This Trip Meter. The idling at 0MPH will skew the results.

You should see better MPGs with a good warmup. Better MPG means engine worked less.
ehhh, except even when you have better mpg in scenario 2, you have to factor in the wasted/burned gas while idling and warming up in scenario 1. The right way to test is to NOT reset the odo after warming up, but include idle time in the calculation.

There is no free lunch. Warming up the motor idling it is not free.
 

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I’m expecting to get similar to my 3.5 ecoboost at about 16-17 mpg. Hybrids and electric suck in the winter.
 

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I’ve noticed a good 20% decrease in my mileage since the cold hit. I never even considered how much a hybrid could suck in the winter mileage wise.
 

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That makes sense. I'm guessing a dozen design engineers at Ford figured out a cool (pun) way to power the block-heater from the battery. Then one production engineer came along with a red pen and said it adds $31 in parts, 4 minutes' assembly time, and some large dollars in servicing and supporting that new part while causing some design changes to the pack that would alter supplier contracts and bills of materials … all too many straws for the back of the camel that is production costs … and that was that.

I'm guessing once they have a plug-in hybrid F-150 it will need thermal management for the battery to charge from the plug and that will require a heat pump and that will be able to run a circuit to the block heater. : )
 

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That makes sense. I'm guessing a dozen design engineers at Ford figured out a cool (pun) way to power the block-heater from the battery. Then one production engineer came along with a red pen and said it adds $31 in parts, 4 minutes' assembly time, and some large dollars in servicing and supporting that new part while causing some design changes to the pack that would alter supplier contracts and bills of materials … all too many straws for the back of the camel that is production costs … and that was that.

I'm guessing once they have a plug-in hybrid F-150 it will need thermal management for the battery to charge from the plug and that will require a heat pump and that will be able to run a circuit to the block heater. : )
Or it would have added 90 days to initial release and it got dropped to be added to the Gen2 PB along with a larger battery and/or other new enhancements. :unsure:
 

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Cold? I remember that, still have property in cold places. Everyone has a choice and we've made ours. Florida is open, free, and no state taxes. It may be flat, but for you folks with 30 degree weather and below impacting your hybrid results, my hybrid is sitting in Delray Beach's current 82 degrees. Plenty of room folks, c'mon down.
 

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I've read that the block heater takes several hours to come up to temperature and become effective, so just a quick jolt from the battery probably wouldn't do much. It's essentially intended to be run overnight.
 

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I've read that the block heater takes several hours to come up to temperature and become effective, so just a quick jolt from the battery probably wouldn't do much. It's essentially intended to be run overnight.
I live in Northern Michigan and did a little testing to see how much it changes engine warm up times, temps were in upper 30s low 40 s. I plugged mine in for 24 hours and started it and timed it to when temp gauge started showing movement and when heat kicked in. Than did it again another day with no block heater. Maybe about 2-3 additional minutes of warm up time without block heater. Truck was also outside and not in a garage with no wind blowing around it. Don’t believe it’s a very large heater. Maybe if you plug it in right after truck is hot from a trip it will maintain a warmer block temperature.
 

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I live mostly in Alaska and plug mine in anytime the temperature drops below 20 deg. Occasionally all night, usually 4 hrs before i go anywhere. I also keep it in auto 4x4 during the winter and that will affect the mph. 19-20 is typical and thats vs 24 in the summer.
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