Who's using premium gas and who's using basic gas?

[Silenze]

A buddy at work, suggested mid grade all the time.
He has a friend who delivers fuel who said If hes got a tanker of premium and can't pump it all into the in ground tank, they pump the rest into the midgrade tank....always go back with an empty truck.
So, mid grade here, with every 4th fill up, premium.

I dont think stations have a mid grade tank. They blend the gas from regular and premium tanks.

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[TNKIRK]

Here in Colorado.......They only have low..85 octane...........or............91 octane..........

 

[EatDirtFartDust]

Since I got an eco boost engine, I use premium.If I had gotten the 5.0 I’d use regular.

 

[Trukbed]

Car and Driver did a 4 vehicle test, testing how different octane affected different engines.

I did an article on it, here's a link to the section that summarizes it.

They put 93 in the F150 3.5 Eco. 87 octane did 17.0 mpg. 93 did 17.6. It was .5 seconds or so faster 0 to 60, and 1/4 mile.

But the MPG gain was too small to make premium gas price worth it.

 

[EatDirtFartDust]

Car and Driver did a 4 vehicle test, testing how different octane affected different engines.

I did an article on it, here's a link to the section that summarizes it.

They put 93 in the F150 3.5 Eco. 87 octane did 17.0 mpg. 93 did 17.6. It was .5 seconds or so faster 0 to 60, and 1/4 mile.

But the MPG gain was too small to make premium gas price worth it.

I don’t use premium for the horsepower or mileage. I use it because a Ford engineer that I respect preaches that it burns cleaner and doesn’t coke up the intake with carbon as fast.
He also claims it less wear on the timing chain components due to less timing adjustments.

 

[Trukbed]

I don’t use premium for the horsepower or mileage. I use it because a Ford engineer that I respect preaches that it burns cleaner and doesn’t coke up the intake with carbon as fast.
He also claims it less wear on the timing chain components due to less timing adjustments.

For the sake of argument only, well, more of discussion more than argument, because I don't disagree with your or him... it does result in less carbon...

But for the sake of discussion: have you ever used cleaners, like Seafoam, and similar?

Seafoam for instance can be used to clean carbon in different ways, as a fuel additive, aerosol spray to throttle, take water out of fuel, etc...

I have used Seafoam to clean built up carbon in engines... and even on heavy build ups, it's cleans the hell out of that carbon, and I mean clean like is gone.

What if one did a 10 dollar can of a seafoam type once every 15,000 miles... versus $15.00 extra every 500 miles in that time frame...

15x30 = $450....

And maybe save $440.00

Just a thought for discussions sake.

 

[Trukbed]

For the sake of argument only, well, more of discussion more than argument, because I don't disagree with your or him... it does result in less carbon...

But for the sake of discussion: have you ever used cleaners, like Seafoam, and similar?

Seafood for instance can be used to clean carbon in different ways, as a fuel additive, aerosol spray to throttle, take water out of fuel, etc...

I have used Seafoam to clean built up carbon in engines... and even on heavy build ups, it's cleans the hell out of that carbon, and I mean clean like is gone.

What if one did a 10 dollar can of a seafoam type once every 15,000 miles... versus $15.00 extra every 500 miles in that time frame...

15x30 = $450....

And maybe save $440.00

Just a thought for discussions sake.

I guess it's like paying for a maid every 4 days to keep something clean, versus paying the maid once to come when it is actually dirty.

 

[Trukbed]

I guess it's like paying for a maid every 4 days to keep something clean, versus paying the maid once to come when it is actually dirty.

In 60,000 miles, after an actual amount of carbon could have actually built up, you could in theory save $1800 in fuel costs.

Buy a can of seafoam and clean your intakes.

Have $1,790 left over, and go get some new wheels and tires with it.

Or maybe a ceramic coating.

Or... about 900 soft tacos from the Bell.

 

[EatDirtFartDust]

For the sake of argument only, well, more of discussion more than argument, because I don't disagree with your or him... it does result in less carbon...

But for the sake of discussion: have you ever used cleaners, like Seafoam, and similar?

Seafoam for instance can be used to clean carbon in different ways, as a fuel additive, aerosol spray to throttle, take water out of fuel, etc...

I have used Seafoam to clean built up carbon in engines... and even on heavy build ups, it's cleans the hell out of that carbon, and I mean clean like is gone.

What if one did a 10 dollar can of a seafoam type once every 15,000 miles... versus $15.00 extra every 500 miles in that time frame...

15x30 = $450....

And maybe save $440.00

Just a thought for discussions sake.

I have used sea foam in powersports and older cars.
If you pour it in the tank of a vehicle with direct injection, it won’t do anything about the carbon in the intake and valves.
Relying only on my gut feeling and nothing scientific, I don’t trust spraying/pouring sea foam into the intake side before or after the turbochargers.
If I wanted to de-carbon, I would use this stuff:
https://wynnsusa.com/products/fuel/turbo-cleaner/

I’ve seen the before and after borescope footage and it’s legit.

 

[Trukbed]

I have used sea foam in powersports and older cars.
If you pour it in the tank of a vehicle with direct injection, it won’t do anything about the carbon in the intake and valves.
Relying only on my gut feeling and nothing scientific, I don’t trust spraying/pouring sea foam into the intake side before or after the turbochargers.
If I wanted to de-carbon, I would use this stuff:
https://wynnsusa.com/products/fuel/turbo-cleaner/

I’ve seen the before and after borescope footage and it’s legit.

I'm with you, I am not getting paid by Seafoam LOL. It's just the one I have used.

I haven't done a turbo with it though.

But I am positive there are much cheaper alternatives than the cost of constant premium gas.

Just my two cents... or possibly more than 2 cents. Maybe $1800 worth of opinion.

 

[EatDirtFartDust]

Well, currently I don’t pay for my own fuel, so that makes the decision easier too ?

 

[Pete6114]

87 octane

 

[gtotco]

Here in Colorado.......They only have low..85 octane...........or............91 octane..........

Most of the gas stations I go to 87 is mid-grade. I just put in premium at Costco though because they typically charge the same for 91 as other places sell 87 for.

 

[TNKIRK]

Premium............................$3.69 here in Colorado

 

[Stubblejumper]

I noticed on my recently generated window sticker that the driving range with the 5.0 is 742 miles with gasoline, compared to 519 miles with ethanol. I thought that was interesting.

Given that ethanol has less energy than gasoline, this isn't at all a surprise. The higher the percentage of alcohol, the more you will burn.

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