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Howdy folks, I solicited some feedback from y'all and dialed into what I feel like is a heck of a lot of upgrade for the money. Goals were to increase clarity while adding some clean bass. I'm old enough to where I don't need any more volume, I'm usually at about half on the knob but man are these OEM speakers muddy. I got a lot of great reccomendations and ended up with the following:

- Kicker HS10
- Kicker Key 200.4
- Kicker CSC693 (6x9 coax) -> Front Door
- Kicker 46CST204 (tweeter) -> Front Pillar
- 6x9 adapter/mount plates & speaker adapter plugs
- PNP Harness wired for the above to retain stock rears, includes amp wiring etc. from PNP kits.

Total: $996.99 with a current kicker discount, with shipping $1037.97

I cheated and also picked up a pair of door block-off plates from SGS. I also had a ton of deadener around, both aluminum backed butyl mat and closed-cell PE foam pads. I put this stuff on everything including the sides/back of our dishwasher/dryer/washer etc. It makes our $350 dishwasher as quiet as a $2k one.

Anyhow onto the goodies. Not pictured here are the door block-off plates, I started on the doors before the below arrived and already had them on.

Not bad for 1k.

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F150 door panels about the easiest I've ever removed, very cool that everything is reachable and the plugs aren't overly complicated. Here I've added both aluminum/butyl and closed cell deadener focusing heavily behind the speaker but I was able to cover nearly the entire inner skin, again super easy to work with and access. Love these doors.

You'll noticed the pre-drilled holes for the backer plates. Do this before deadener then you can compress the plates right onto the deadener, the screws just glide on through.

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Outer skin, rolled everything in really well.

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Here is the door ready for the cover. I used the closed-cell PE foam in areas to pin down wiring so it wouldn't rattle etc. It's very thin, easy to cut and sticky. Deadens plus holds things down and its cheap.

I ran a bead of silicon around the block-off plate, they are not air tight at all once installed. The deadener helped closed the gaps by acting like a gasket but for sure run a bead if you want to prevent air passing through. I also ran a bead of silicon around the metra speaker rings just to be safe, I could see an ever so slight gap on the side.

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Door cover

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Doors are all back together and sounding great, I could tell the difference the moment I closed them and got a nice sharp thud. Working on the tweeters now and will then move onto the Key 200.4 and finally end with the HS10 likely this weekend.
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Of course, in for the build :D
 
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Man these tweeters just popped right into the existing OEM mount. I figured I'd have to glue or fabricate brackets but not so. Super quick, running the inline passive crossovers since I won't be in bi-amp mode on the Key.

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That's a lot of tweeters up front!

No rears!?
 
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That's a lot of tweeters up front!

No rears!?
Nah not yet, they will have lines from the key and I figure when we get back from our Xmas trip I can throw a set in. The CS for the rears are cheap.
 

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I did a very similar upgrade and it has been well worth the time, money and effort. You will be pleased.
 

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Howdy folks, I solicited some feedback from y'all and dialed into what I feel like is a heck of a lot of upgrade for the money. Goals were to increase clarity while adding some clean bass. I'm old enough to where I don't need any more volume, I'm usually at about half on the knob but man are these OEM speakers muddy. I got a lot of great reccomendations and ended up with the following:

- Kicker HS10
- Kicker Key 200.4
- Kicker CSC693 (6x9 coax) -> Front Door
- Kicker 46CST204 (tweeter) -> Front Pillar
- 6x9 adapter/mount plates & speaker adapter plugs
- PNP Harness wired for the above to retain stock rears, includes amp wiring etc. from PNP kits.

Total: $996.99 with a current kicker discount, with shipping $1037.97
Where did you place the amp? How did you run the wires?
 

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Where did you place the amp? How did you run the wires?
In my case, I put the amp behind the head unit just under the center dash tray. It fit long ways front to back. Easy to get to if I ever want to make additions adjustments. So far it has been snug and rattle free. It’s possible heat from sun on dash could be an issue but I’ll figure that out if it ever happens.
 

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In my case, I put the amp behind the head unit just under the center dash tray. It fit long ways front to back. Easy to get to if I ever want to make additions adjustments. So far it has been snug and rattle free. It’s possible heat from sun on dash could be an issue but I’ll figure that out if it ever happens.
Sorry for all the questions. Did you use speaker Level inputs? Did you use a tee-harness with proper connectors or cut into the factory wiring?
 

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Sorry for all the questions. Did you use speaker Level inputs? Did you use a tee-harness with proper connectors or cut into the factory wiring?
I purchased a plug and play harness from Bruce Watson at Hush Car Audio. No splicing into any of my factory harness.

I did need to run the tweeter wires from his harness up to the A pillars and connect them and I used butt connectors on the sub leads from his harness to the harness that came with my sub.

Hope that makes sense.

Bruce answered a TON of really STUPID questions from me.
 

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see if you can shell out a little extra and get the bass roll off fix by @SoundsGoodStereo
Never even heard of bass roll off until your post. So I searched and I understand it now. I went to SGS site but could not find anything on it there.

Do you know what they do to fix it? Do they modify the KK 200.4? Maybe the amp within the 51HS10? Something else?

Thanks
 
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Never even heard of bass roll off until your post. So I searched and I understand it now. I went to SGS site but could not find anything on it there.

Do you know what they do to fix it? Do they modify the KK 200.4? Maybe the amp within the 51HS10? Something else?

Thanks
From SGS:

“As you might have already experienced, the factory B&O systems will roll back the bass over volume 14 and it will come in and out depending on the song.”

I think it’s B&O only but if not I hope to reach out to PNP and see if they integrated a solution into their harness. I’ll get some better shots of it but he’s got what looks to be a crossover inline or something.
 

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I know that most of the Audio Control line output converters have a feature called AccuBass to allow you to correct for bass roll off. Does flattening the EQ via Forscan solve this issue as well?
 
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I know that most of the Audio Control line output converters have a feature called AccuBass to allow you to correct for bass roll off. Does flattening the EQ via Forscan solve this issue as well?
I think that's what these AudioControl LGD units are used for. I took a photo to sanity check things, I find it hard to believe it's really this simple (last audio install was 15+ years ago) and sure enough the only thing I need to worry about are ground and power. The rest is just plugging it into the audio interface on the back of the OEM head unit.

@Mosey Have a gander at the below, notice that blue AC-LGD which runs out to the sub's line input channels. I guess I'll know for sure soon enough but they've got this pretty dialed in. I'm already shocked at how much better it sounds and I've only done the front door & tweeters.

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