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The Ford F-150 Lightning Will Be Able to Charge Other Lightnings
Vehicle-to-vehicle charging has been a white whale for EVs, but Ford says it's figured it out.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43203/the-ford-f-150-lightning-will-be-able-to-charge-other-lightnings

Jerry Perez November 19, 2021

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In conversation with the truck's chief engineer Linda Zhang at the 2021 Los Angeles Auto Show, we learned about the lengthy process Ford went through to squeeze the most performance and practicality out of its upcoming pickup. One of those key traits revolves around the truck's ability to act as a rolling battery and power generator, which allows it to share its electric charge with other devices—which up until recently we knew could be anything from camping gear to an entire house. Now, it turns out the Lightning will have vehicle-to-vehicle charging capabilities via its main charging port.

Zhang explained that the idea really spawned from the success of the current hybrid F-150 PowerBoost, which can use its onboard generator to power a variety of external devices, including an entire home if the home is equipped with an inverter (as we've explained before).

"We have a battery system that you can pull electricity from, in this case, 9.6 kilowatts of power via 22 different outlets around the truck; 220v, 110v, USB, and 12v. As we thought about this Pro Power Onboard technology and we heard from people who were using it [in the hybrid F-150] to back up their refrigerators and homes during power outages, we developed the theme more [in the Lightning]," Zhang added. "We ended up with something called Intelligent Backup Power. It uses the Lightning's actual charging port on the side of the truck, where you plug it in to charge, to do bidirectional power transfer with the extended range batteries, turning the truck into a mobile backup generator on wheels for an entire home ecosystem paired with a home inverter."

Going one step further and having the ability to share a charge with another compatible EV is really quite the breakthrough, even if for now it's limited to the same make and model. Some smartphones are already able to share a battery charge with other compatible smartphones, and Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe told this very outlet back in 2019 that his company was planning V2V charging for the R1T, though that tech didn't make it into the production model launched this fall.

Being able to help a fellow Ford owner because they don't have enough charge to make it to their destination is important (and will surely help with range anxiety), but I believe the real advantage to this technology will play out in fleet and/or commercial applications. Being able to top off trucks in the field and essentially shuffle power around to vehicles that need it can be extremely attractive to companies that manage hundreds or thousands of vehicles in construction, mining, utility, and other industries that rely heavily on trucks.

Zhang did not elaborate on when this capability would extend to other Ford vehicles, but given that the necessary changes involve hardware and software, it will likely be a bit. For now, however, potential Lightning owners can rest easy knowing that if they're ever in a tough spot, all it takes is another friendly Lightning driver to get them out.
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At last the discovery of infinite power has been realized! But that is very interesting from a fleet perspective if you had a truck on the lot that had a mechanical issue with a fully battery and one that was fine with a dead battery I could see you using the broken down one as an emergency charger.
 

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At last the discovery of infinite power has been realized! But that is very interesting from a fleet perspective if you had a truck on the lot that had a mechanical issue with a fully battery and one that was fine with a dead battery I could see you using the broken down one as an emergency charger.
Another reason to hide my Lightning from my friends. I've been the "friend with a truck" before and I don't want to become the "friend with a truck and a mobile charger". I don't want any 2am calls, "Hey dude, my Tesla ran out of juice..." :p
 

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Great! Now so have my business Idea and can get some Pros with Extended Range…..

Mobile EV Recharge …”Run out of juice? Give us a Call”

1-800-RECharg that’s 1-800-RECharg
 

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Great! Now so have my business Idea and can get some Pros with Extended Range…..

Mobile EV Recharge …”Run out of juice? Give us a Call”

1-800-RECharg that’s 1-800-RECharg
"Call Mr. Recharge, that's my name. That name again is Mr. Recharge."

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Not an overly practical feature unless one has a fleet I'd think. Maybe there is a F150 EV app that shows the locations of others nearby like those kids use for you know what.

The cord is available on Ford parts direct for $4,387.52 No, I have no idea.
 

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Can someone explain how this is different form plugging in to 110 or 220 AC plug in back of Lightning or IONIQ5? Is this DC? is it faster?
 

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"We are [working on] a vehicle-to-vehicle system," Zhang told The Drive. "[Charging other EVs] is going to be dependent on the power cord"

I'd assume that means DC.
 

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If this feature is DC charging that will be absolutely amazing. I have an electric motorcycle that has a CCS1 port for 25kW DC fast charging so this will come in handy.

Edit: Blah, it says that this feature will start off for sharing with other Lightnings. I hope they expand this!
 

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Not sure why the limitations of the vehicle but maybe it's they way the handshake works between V2V. Maybe no standard yet.
 

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Not sure why the limitations of the vehicle but maybe it's they way the handshake works between V2V. Maybe no standard yet.
Bingo

they have said they expect to build out all Ford to Ford charging. So in time it will be every vehicle to vehicle...

If anyone remembers how long vhs vs beta played out be aware the standards get worked out faster these days :cool:
 
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