Selling Your Order or Plan to Sell Lightning?

[GregL]

Curious, given all the demand and such overall limited availability of cars and trucks in general, is anyone thinking about taking delivery of their Lightning and flipping it immediately for a profit? What do you think the market would bear? $20k over MSRP? More?

Please don't question the logic of buying to just sell, this is purely a hypothetical to see what folks think these will be worth in 2022 in the early market.

Sponsored

 

[Jer1983]

20k seems like the upper limit to me but who am I? Also I’d expect that to be a loaded platinum type of customer. There’s a lot of people that can blow 20k on stupid shit and not miss a drop of sleep. Part of why cars cost so much in this country, no one cares about the pro market

 

[beatle]

I actually want the truck, but the extra opportunity cost from not reselling is something to consider. When taking delivery you will not cut a check for the scalper price, but you'll ultimately pay for it by keeping it and letting that "opportunity equity" pass you by. (Okay, I made up that term.)

 

[PA Lightning]

Seems to me if you resell it you would also have to take into consideration the buyer is loosing all the tax credits, so tack that on to the marked up price.

 

[LightningLover]

Ford is allowing dealers to add language to sale orders preventing resale for a year.

 

[Beans]

Ford is allowing dealers to add language to sale orders preventing resale for a year.

What's your source? This doesn't seem possible. Once I have the title, the truck is mine to do what I want with.

 

[Sklith]

John Cena got in trouble a few years back for selling his Ford GT. It's a low production vehicle, and I doubt Ford will go through the effort of doing the same for Lightning models but it would be nice if there was some way to prevent price gougers from taking a preorder.

 

[techguydave]

What's your source? This doesn't seem possible. Once I have the title, the truck is mine to do what I want with.

Welp,
https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...corporate-supports-no-resale-provisions.7961/

 

[vandy1981]

Ford is allowing dealers to add language to sale orders preventing resale for a year.

This would be great, but I don't know how the dealer could enforce this. Arbitrage is one of those free market things that piss people off, but it's not illegal.

EV truck demand is going to far outstrip the supply for a while, and there's no way to prevent flippers from claiming the current EV tax credit (consult with your tax attorney to confirm). People who decide to do this will make a lot of money, easily in the 15-20k range.

As @PA Lightning said, only the person that first titled the vehicle can claim the credit and you can't claim the credit if you decide to buy from a flipper. It doesn't matter whether the flipper holds the title for 1 second and never sits in the vehicle.

I've participated in arbitrage in scarce consumer goods like Xbox and other home electronics in my younger years to pay for college, so I can't really judge someone who would decide to do this. All I can say is that it's fun until you're the 'victim' of one of these schemes.

 

[LightningLover]

This would be great, but I don't know how the dealer could enforce this. Arbitrage is one of those free market things that piss people off, but it's not illegal.

EV truck demand is going to far outstrip the supply for a while, and there's no way to prevent flippers from claiming the current EV tax credit (consult with your tax attorney to confirm). People who decide to do this will make a lot of money, easily in the 15-20k range.

As @PA Lightning said, only the person that first titled the vehicle can claim the credit and you can't claim the credit if you decide to buy from a flipper. It doesn't matter whether the flipper holds the title for 1 second and never sits in the vehicle.

I've participated in arbitrage in scarce consumer goods like Xbox and other home electronics in my younger years to pay for college, so I can't really judge someone who would decide to do this. All I can say is that it's fun until you're the 'victim' of one of these schemes.

Many states have upheld anti-scalping laws. While buyers may be able to win a case in some states, who's going to have the stomach to stand up against staff lawyers at dealerships and FoMoCo over the sale of a truck, a Bronco, or two? The first few hearings of a court case would eat all of their profits.

 

[techguydave]

Many states have upheld anti-scalping laws. While buyers may be able to win a case in some states, who's going to have the stomach to stand up against staff lawyers at dealerships and FoMoCo over the sale of a truck, a Bronco, or two? The first few hearings of a court case would eat all of their profits.

Exactly. And sometimes that's all a legal threat is, a way to deter you from even thinking about calling their bluff.

 

[LightningLover]

What's your source? This doesn't seem possible. Once I have the title, the truck is mine to do what I want with.

Ford.
https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...resale-provisions-in-purchase-contracts.7961/

 

[LightningLover]

Ford.
https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...resale-provisions-in-purchase-contracts.7961/

 

[F150ROD]

Capitalism is not meant for the consumer lmao

 

[vandy1981]

Many states have upheld anti-scalping laws. While buyers may be able to win a case in some states, who's going to have the stomach to stand up against staff lawyers at dealerships and FoMoCo over the sale of a truck, a Bronco, or two? The first few hearings of a court case would eat all of their profits.

But how would they monitor private party resale? I guess they could investigate listings on Autotrader and every title change through public records, but that seems a bit extreme and expensive.

Sponsored