Powerboost Destroyed Its Own Engine

[don.mullins]

The service r manager couldn’t tell me exactly what components were part of the long block. I don’t know all of them either. But, for example, if the engine overheated and caused this, then perhaps there’s something wrong with the engine cooling system. I know for a fact that’s not part of the long block. So that stays. And if there’s some odd issue in there that they aren’t inspecting because they aren’t willing to go one step further, then this could potentially happen again, and it wouldn’t be a coincidence. It just makes me very unsettled that they aren’t even willing to engage in a conversation about it. And then the mention of getting the truck back to me in under 30 days without me bringing up anything related to lemon law makes it feel like this is all being rushed to meet a timeline.

I am an old guy, but back in the day, these were the meanings:
* short block: block with no heads or intake manifold,
* long block: block with heads, no intake manifold
* undressed: complete engine minus accessories (AC, alternator, PS pump, etc.)
* dressed: varying degrees of included accessories (dressed minus AC, etc.)

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[My 2ND Ford]

Long Block 3.5 Ecoboost

That is a seriously complete long block. Back when I started in the industry, all you got was the block and heads, no accessories at all.

 

[Snakebitten]

That is a seriously complete long block. Back when I started in the industry, all you got was the block and heads, no accessories at all.

Yea, but back then we weren't nearly the disposable culture that we are now?

We are now more plug&play, and it does require less skill/knowledge/training/experience, not to mention raises the price considerably.

 

[thebigdu]

Ha! The voices that were raised weren’t mine. Im fairly good about when to lose my temper and when to keep it under control and let the other side self destruct. it also helped that I’m that situation I was actually in the right. When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When they aren’t on your side, pound the table. I wasn’t pounding the table that time. We came to an agreement that suited both sides.

Never heard this one. I like it.

 

[towpro]

a long block that way is safer to ship as you just put caps on the holes to keep junk out of engine. if it has no intake open that could allow junk exposure during shipping.

Plus with new engines, that is how it comes from the assembly plant. With rebuilt engines a long block is different because the variety of intakes, accessory drives, etc can be countless.

 

[My 2ND Ford]

Yea, but back then we weren't nearly the disposable culture that we are now?

We are now more plug&play, and it does require less skill/knowledge/training/experience, not to mention raises the price considerably.

Theoretically, providing the engine in this almost complete state removes some error from the technician while assembling and installing . I am not assuming mistakes could not be made [ as I never assume anything] but it does lessen the possibility. It is more plug and play as you said. Truly we have moved to a more disposable society , but we have been moving in this direction for a long time.

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