Payload comparison

[PnchDrnk]

Sorry for the late reply and I appreciate all the responses! I didn't realize before how important payload, GVWR, and GAWR numbers matter beforehand. I’ve come to realize with my max payload capacity I’ll probably have to max out my trailer at about 4500lbs GVWR which still provides lots of choices.
Anyways we love the truck and happy to be here!

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[js312]

1537 on my 502a 4x4, but I am missing most of the heavy stuff. I have power running boards, but not FX4, moonroof, max tow, or bed utility.

 

[dafish]

Punch:

1400 for a 4x4 PB is relatively good. You're on the higher side. Lariat maybe? An KR, Platty FX4 w/ dual sunroof would have been in the lower 1300's... some comments to help you:

1) Payload is not the sum of the axle ratings. The latter has nothing to do with braking, suspension damping for sway control, frame strength, or other issues needed for total payload. Axle rating does seem to include basic spring rates though.

2) IMO, and lord knows I've used it heavily, Google search engine is the only way to get quality search hits for this or the "other" f-150 site on this topic.

3) There are many schools of thought on this topic. Two polarizing issues are:
A. Is it possible to exceed payload rating safely?
B. Is "Max Tow" a good thing or a bad thing vis a vis payload.


I tend to avoid both discussions, for one needs a flame-suit as well as a significant body of knowledge to properly understand both. I can say this:

I want to be able to safely push payload ratings to the boundaries, and plan to extend my safety margins. No, that doesn't mean I'll have a larger number of the sticker, but I will have a much larger safety margin. That meant I had to understand what limiting factors (aside from a sticker) were. My reading (reach your own conclusions) saw them as:

1) Suspension capability
2) Brake capability
3) Frame capability

If you look at an 2021 XLT with the HDPP, you see that it delivered a 7800lb (as I recall) GVWR. That demanded the max tow (bigger rear brake and more suspension), the HDPP frame, 20" rims, and load appropriate tires. (the front axles are the same save for spring rates.)

Why did PB never have such an option? Dunno. Hardly the first "wtf was ford thinking" moment.

I do know that so I may have a larger safety margin I will set mine up (should I ever find the unicorn I seek) exactly as above: I'm looking for the HDPP frame, max tow, 20's, as well as a long bed. I will add RAS (google it), and run a quality load dist hitch. My sticker will not have changed, and I'll plan to remain compliant, but I'll certainly not be worried when I run it to the sticker limit.

I'm also considering brakes on both TT axles, and if so will look for ABS on at least one axle.

 

[dmac]

Good news from the 2024 order guide posted in another thread - it looks like GVWR and payload were bumped by 50lbs across the board for the 2024.

 

[Atlee]

Good news from the 2024 order guide posted in another thread - it looks like GVWR and payload were bumped by 50lbs across the board for the 2024.

Which says to me the GVWR is, to a certain extent , artificial. If Ford had wanted, it could have raised the GVWR enough to cover the added weight of all the hybrid equipment on Power Boost trucks. It did increase the GVWR a little, 300#, which helped with the PB's CCC.

 

[Samson16]

Good news from the 2024 order guide posted in another thread - it looks like GVWR and payload were bumped by 50lbs across the board for the 2024.

Payload is simply the difference between the weight of your vehicle as optioned and the GVWR which for pre-2024 PBs is #7350. 7350 is a seemingly arbitrary number arrived at via rock/paper/scissors/lizard/Spock contests between Ford marketers, engineers, and lawyers.

 

[RossRR]

Which says to me the GVWR is, to a certain extent , artificial. If Ford had wanted, it could have raised the GVWR enough to cover the added weight of all the hybrid equipment on Power Boost trucks. It did increase the GVWR a little, 300#, which helped with the PB's CCC.

What we don't know is whether they included other changes in the frame/suspension to support the increase in GVWR, which would make it non-artificial. We do know that they changed the rear leaf suspension on PB. Did they do other changes to make it more robust? Who knows, maybe that rear suspension change itself was sufficient to account for the additional 300# GVWR.

 

[dmac]

Payload is simply the difference between the weight of your vehicle as optioned and the GVWR which for pre-2024 PBs is #7350. 7350 is a seemingly arbitrary number arrived at via rock/paper/scissors/lizard/Spock contests between Ford marketers, engineers, and lawyers.

Indeed! Well atleast our legal limit is better now per this.

 

[Tigmd99]

So help me out...my 2023 PB Platy has payload of 1332 on side door jam. So, is this number not correct?

 

[Snakebitten]

So help me out...my 2023 PB Platy has payload of 1332 on side door jam. So, is this number not correct?

It's definitely the "official recognized" Payload of that specific truck.
But I think the point is being made that there's evidence it's arrived at arbitrarily at the manufacturer's discretion, and may not be solely based on absolute engineering limits.

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