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I just went into the build for a 2021 Lariat, still forces 20" wheels if you select Max Trailer Tow Package
I played around just now, and it only does that if you are getting the Chrome Package that comes standard with the 18" Chrome-Like PVD Wheels - which are specifically excluded in the "Not available with" section of the Max Trailer Tow Package. If you do a Sport Appearance Package instead of the Chrome Package, it allows Max Trailer Tow with the 18" wheels that come standard on the Sport Appearance Pack.

It is specifically the 18" Chrome-Like PVD Wheels that are forcing it to the 20" wheels with Max Tow.
 
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Anyone confirmed if ordering the lariat with sport package if that locks you into awful red interior?
Nothing new yet.. Keep hoping it changes like the 2020 models with some of the packages... Fingers super crossed!
 

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I did some MPG calcs for my expectations over here https://www.f150forum.com/f129/3-5eb-vs-3-5pb-485440/

I expect the powerboost to be a small drop in highway vs what I have now. I also suspect the 700mi/30gal calc is for a 4x2 and a 4x4 can expect 22 MPG rating highway. It's city where I want some help!
I would think it would help on the hwy some for when you start going up a grade, the electric motor will assit the tranny reducing the need for additional engine power and downshifting in some cases. Would be like free boost in those situations.
 

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With the numbers out now I'm curious to hear what drivetrain most people will choose, still powerboost?
I was all set to order the PowerBoost, but with the 3.5-liter EcoBoost towing and payload numbers being so much higher, the deciding factor for me is going to be the fuel economy.
 

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I was all set to order the PowerBoost, but with the 3.5-liter EcoBoost towing and payload numbers being so much higher, the deciding factor for me is going to be the fuel economy.
I tend to agree, if the fuel mileage numbers for the PowerBoost aren't significantly better than for the EcoBoost it may not be worth the extra up-front cost and increased system complexity for 30 HP and 70 lb-ft. I'm not as concerned about the reduced towing and payload numbers for the PowerBoost, but I'd really like to see fuel mileage numbers soon enough that I can still change my order...
 

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I tend to agree, if the fuel mileage numbers for the PowerBoost aren't significantly better than for the EcoBoost it may not be worth the extra up-front cost and increased system complexity for 30 HP and 70 lb-ft. I'm not as concerned about the reduced towing and payload numbers for the PowerBoost, but I'd really like to see fuel mileage numbers soon enough that I can still change my order...
Maybe THIS is what Ford knew when they predicted that only 10% of models sold would be with the Powerboost...
 

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I'm also curious about the gooseneck/5th wheel towing numbers. Today's releases were very careful to note that the numbers were for "conventional towing."
 

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I'm also curious about the gooseneck/5th wheel towing numbers. Today's releases were very careful to note that the numbers were for "conventional towing."
I think Ford was the only OEM that listed 5th Wheel Tow Ratings for half tons, and they were typically lower than the "Conventional Towing" Ratings. They may have eliminated the ratings for 2021? There is also speculation that 5th Wheel hitch equipment/hardware will interfere with the PowerBoost hybrid battery/systems under the bed?
 

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Anyone confirmed if ordering the lariat with sport package if that locks you into awful red interior?
All signs point to yes, including every picture available. “Unique interior finish” is added and not at option you can remove. Just hoping the standard black interior with the chrome package has none of the red accents.
 

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All signs point to yes, including every picture available. “Unique interior finish” is added and not at option you can remove. Just hoping the standard black interior with the chrome package has none of the red accents.
I guess that will make my decision of whether to buy a truck this year an easy one. Not a chrome guy and I am not a red interior fan. I think they will lose business over that decision
 

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There is also speculation that 5th Wheel hitch equipment/hardware will interfere with the PowerBoost hybrid battery/systems under the bed?
I never thought of that! Since I'll need to tow a gooseneck on occasion, I think this may be the deciding factor between the 3.5-liter EcoBoost and the PowerBoost.
 

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I never thought of that! Since I'll need to tow a gooseneck on occasion, I think this may be the deciding factor between the 3.5-liter EcoBoost and the PowerBoost.
Yeah, unfortunately, this information won't be known until some of the trucks hit lots, and maybe even then it will take a while before hitch manufacturers decide if they want to mess with trying to make their hitches work around the PB equipment . I think it is too big an unknown to order a PB now based on an assumption. If you can get to one of the test drive events coming up, maybe someone will give you a chance to poke your head up underneath and gauge it for yourself, or maybe you'll see that cut away frame display and that will tell the story?
 

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Yeah, unfortunately, this information won't be known until some of the trucks hit lots, and maybe even then it will take a while before hitch manufacturers decide if they want to mess with trying to make their hitches work around the PB equipment . I think it is too big an unknown to order a PB now based on an assumption. If you can get to one of the test drive events coming up, maybe someone will give you a chance to poke your head up underneath and gauge it for yourself, or maybe you'll see that cut away frame display and that will tell the story?
I'm planning on being at the one in Atlanta next Friday and I will try and remember to ask one of the Ford reps about this and report back.
 

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