We're very appreciate and hope you didn't just dox Shannon! *Ford goons show up at Shannon's door*Guys
I told Shannon he was the Man and we really appreciate him sharing these updates with me to share with all here who have orders or about to order.
This info is all rights reserved to Ford, so classified of sorts to dealers only.
So just say thanks Shannon in you head so I'm not tell no stories and don't tell Ford. Lol
Any way to know if a dealers has allocations in advance of beginning the build and negotiations? I’m very close to scrapping my 31-July order and finding a new dealership. Very disappointed in them for a multitude of reasons not all pertaining to my truck. Lastly, do you think a dealer with allocations would be less wiling to offer the type of competitive pricing discussed in here? Thanks in advance!! Hooah!!See if they would agree to do a stock and a retail. That will cover you also if they achieve OKTB before your stock order gets picked up.
Remember the dealer has to have allocations before Ford will pick up their order.
You don't want to be sitting there with an unscheduled stock order when they go OKTB.
We all highly appreciate their insider info. None of what I wrote was said in anger towards anyone. Just trying to stay positive here too.In all seriousness though, at least we have an insider like the Admin and CurryBob giving updates even if it isn’t the best news sometimes. Otherwise some of us would have been sitting here for months not knowing what the hell is going on.
If we still keep seeing no availability on items once we get into OKTB, I’ll probably begin losing my patience as well.
Thank you sir for taking the time to spell that out for me! Sounds like the 6 weeks I was giving is unrealistic.First off, we have several first time posters and I want to welcome you to this site and for coming out of the shadows.
I'm not an administrator, just a member that had some time. I enjoy this site, and what little I know, I want to try and pass on also. I have ordered 3 new trucks in the past 6 years and not a lot has changed, well, Covid has put a wrench in things for sure.
I'm going to try and answer to best of my knowledge.
If you've been reading, then you know the dealer must have allocations before Ford will pick his order up.
The order number is only good to the dealer, means nothing to Ford
The priority code the dealer assigns to your order, it is to determine if it is a stock or retail order and in what sequence those are to be built for the dealer. Best I understand it.
No way I know to see if they have allocations, other than ask them.
The BIG ONE here is STOCK vs RETAIL!!!
OKTB- OK To Build
Allocations- A dealer gets a number each (2 weeks I think but could be monthly) of how many trucks he can order during that time period. He can still place the order but Ford will not pick it up until they have an allocation. Some allocations are for certain options, like diesel, hybrid etc. So he could have a truck allocation but not one with a hybrid.
Retail Orders-These are orders pre-sold/customer orders. Can not be clean scheduled till OKTB is achieved.
Stock Orders- Dealer orders for their lots to sell to anyone. Can be built anytime and therefore the only orders that will be scheduled and built till OKTB is achieved.
The dealer can order a stock order for a customer, nothing illegal about it. You can not track stock orders on the Ford tracking site (https://shop.ford.com/vehicleordertracking#/) which uses your VIN. You can only get that info from you dealer and someone said the Ford call site. You dealer is the best place for that though.
Around the week of your build you can check for your window sticker here (http://www.windowsticker.forddirect.com/windowsticker.pdf?vin=1FTFX1EG5JKC17552) just put your VIN where the last 17 digits are. That is good for Retail and Stock.
Retail orders can not look in ETIS(https://www.etis.ford.com/) till around the week of your build to check the options and some other info you get there. Stock orders never.
For a stock order, if your dealer had allocations when he placed your order, you should have a VIN in about a week.
For a retail order, AFTER OKTB is achieved and he has allocations, you should have a VIN in about a week. If you don't get a VIN after a couple of weeks then they didn't have allocation or didn't place the order at all, something like that is up.
So, at the beginning of a MY (Model Year), if you want you truck fast, you need a stock order. Other wise you are waiting for the plant to be up and running at speed and proficiency.
Once OKTB is achieved, retail orders have priority over stock orders.
That is it and as plain as I know to spell it out.
I hope this helps some
phew, my hands are tired...
Thanks Kyle and others, I know you appreciate my efforts and happy to help anyone here that I can and in no way felt any disappointment or anger aimed at me. I feel everyone's frustration and just trying to get info out that I can, to maybe help to some degree.