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Are you saying SAE grade 5?

I think that's closer to 8.8 on metric?
Since SAE grade 8 is about the same as 10.9 on the metric bolt Ford uses.
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My truck is back at its usual new home at the dealership service department for other problems and they said they need to inspect my brand new axles because there is now a recall on the recalled axles they just replaced 4 weeks ago.. Working on hitting the 100 days without my truck over a 6 month period milestone... I hope I at least get a free t-shirt to celebrate this accomplishment to show all my friends driving reliable trucks.
 

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I don't really understand what they are saying.

There IS now an official recall.
But it's without a remedy yet, so it instructs the technician to do EXACTLY what the previous CSP stated. Which is simply to replace the axle/hub/bolt.

So if you recently had the CSP performed, OR you had a warranty replacement, the recall doesn't offer any solution beyond what was already done.

I had my recent repair done under the umbrella of the recent recall, but if the bolt had sheared a week or so earlier, the recall wouldn't have been in affect yet, although the procedure and parts would have been the same.

Dealerships are confusing. Lol
 

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A one time use only bolt is normally torq to yield. Meaning you actually stretched the bolt tightening it down to maximum torque. Once that’s been done, bolt can’t be reused. Lots of head bolts are this way
I pretty much understand what they are, just wondering why they are.
 

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Might have to go to something like this and scrap the bolt fiasco. Not a cheap fix I’m sure so probably not an option.

Ford F-150 NHTSA Safety Recall (23V-896) on 113,000 F-150 Trucks with Trailer Tow Max Duty Package IMG_2032
 
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Slightly off topic but for those wondering about "Max Tow Axle" (of whatever form**) for 2024 Job 2 - FWIW here's my tediously compiled 'conclusion' based on the recently posted PDF Order Guide

Ford F-150 NHTSA Safety Recall (23V-896) on 113,000 F-150 Trucks with Trailer Tow Max Duty Package job 2 max tow mashu


Noting that the PowerBoost has a different axle code (XL6) than the "Max Tow Axle" XL5/XL7, I'm taking that to mean that the PB no longer gets that axle (of whatever form**).

** "of whatever form" to indicate that, at least in this post, I'm not speculating on whether or not this is the same 3/4-float axle design historically associated with the Max Tow Package ;)
 
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Got an assortment of fasteners and a couple of different anti-vibration options from McMaster-Carr today.

I installed a 70 durometer washer on the passenger side, and a spring washer on the driver's side.

Swapped the Dorman bolts for some anti-corrosion coated bolts.
(unused Ford bolt in the middle)

Ford F-150 NHTSA Safety Recall (23V-896) on 113,000 F-150 Trucks with Trailer Tow Max Duty Package 1000021286


This is what I removed

Ford F-150 NHTSA Safety Recall (23V-896) on 113,000 F-150 Trucks with Trailer Tow Max Duty Package 1000021278


You can see from the picture above that the factory washer uses up about 50% of the area available for the clamping surface

Ford F-150 NHTSA Safety Recall (23V-896) on 113,000 F-150 Trucks with Trailer Tow Max Duty Package 1000021279


Passenger side with cushioning washer. I really like how it felt as I torqued it to 84lbs

Ford F-150 NHTSA Safety Recall (23V-896) on 113,000 F-150 Trucks with Trailer Tow Max Duty Package 1000021287


Driver's side with Conical washer

Ford F-150 NHTSA Safety Recall (23V-896) on 113,000 F-150 Trucks with Trailer Tow Max Duty Package 1000021288


The service manual states torque to 52lbs and then 90°

I torqued to 52 lbs, then to 84 lbs.
It was just less than 45°

Honestly, it just feels wrong with the wrench in my hand to go tighter than I did. Another 45 degrees is aggressive. Especially for what it appears is the intent.

Both axles were still tightly pressed, by the way. Admittedly it's only been a few days and a couple of hundred miles on the new axles.
 
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I installed a 70 nanometer washer on the passenger side, and a spring washer on the driver's side.
Interesting experiment (good for you, why not!) (y)

BTW, was that intended to be "70 durometer", in reference to rubber hardness scale?
 

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Had mine in last week for this. They said it's fine bring it back if it breaks. Super reassuring.
 

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Interesting experiment (good for you, why not!) (y)

BTW, was that intended to be "70 durometer", in reference to rubber hardness scale?
Oops
Yes sir.
I will edit the post.
Thanks!

And yeah, I'm just experimenting.
With the recall in place, I don't see any downside to "testing" with my fresh axles. And if the efforts to lessen the stress on the retaining bolt doesn't remedy the situation, my truck is no different than anyone else's.
I'm a hopeless optimist though. I am cautiously convinced that the bolts I installed are BETTER than Ford's. :)
 
 




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