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Exactly. The electronic features weigh basically nothing, the physical/mechanical stuff is heavy.

I might even order mine without running boards (40 lbs for screw) - if I could.

The tailgate bed step and bed utility package are really cool but can be replaced with aftermarket solutions if necessary (i'll probably suck it up and pay AMP $290 for the retractable bed step).

As many others have opined.... if we could only get that elusive 7850 gvwr with the PB..... would be perfection.
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Shoot. Your post was making me excited and then I saw you have a 4x2. 4x4 adds a whopping 312 lbs to the truck, directly out of the payload. Ouch.

Would a lightly optioned XLT 4x4 screw 6.5' really fall under 1500 lbs? I really want the hybrid fuel economy and power, plus the 7.2kW... but this payload is borderline unacceptable.

I am tempted to get one anyway, stuff airlift 5000s in the rear, and ignore the payload rating. But I'm trying to buy a truck to do 10+ years of family camper hauling, occasional equipment hauling on my 10k trailer, lumber and materials hauling, and daily driving. Losing 5 mpg to do this in a regular 3.5eb would be sad. ugh, what to do.
please see my post. I have a heavily optioned XLT, 6.5’ SCREW. My payload is 1569 lbs..
I think I posted this earlier in the thread, but if not...

Using the guide, I estimated my payload to be 1578 and it came in 55lbs less than that.

My factory payload is 1523 lbs. for this:

'21, 302a XLT PB 7.2kw 157, 4x4, Max Tow, Tow mirrors, 360* camera, Sport package, 20" Sport wheels, Co-Pilot360 assist 2.0, Interior work surface, Power adjustable pedals, 8 Sp B&O, Onboard scales, Tailgate step/work surface, Box link, Wheel well liners.

I then added: LINE-X, RAS, and Geolandar G015 LT285/60r20.
 

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please see my post. I have a heavily optioned XLT, 6.5’ SCREW. My payload is 1569 lbs..
I was impressed by your truck's numbers as the stretch added very little mass to the truck.
 
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Ok thank you so much guys. I think if I skip the tailgate step / bed utility, stay with 18" wheels, I can land closer to 1600 and make this work.
 

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Ok thank you so much guys. I think if I skip the tailgate step / bed utility, stay with 18" wheels, I can land closer to 1600 and make this work.
staying away from bedliner, tailgate utility, while getting 18s (not LT tires) should put you at 1600 on the PB

I hate the tailgate utility step -- rattles around in there.
 

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Yeah seems like we know that the axles and frame are up for some additional payload above 7350 gvwr. BUT, of course the rear springs are NOT the same as those in the 7850 gvwr package. PB rear springs are around 10% softer. This will have real consequences on rear squat when dropping heavy payload in the bed or tongue weight on the hitch.
 

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Yeah seems like we know that the axles and frame are up for some additional payload above 7350 gvwr. BUT, of course the rear springs are NOT the same as those in the 7850 gvwr package. PB rear springs are around 10% softer. This will have real consequences on rear squat when dropping heavy payload in the bed or tongue weight on the hitch.
Yeah, I have airlift 5k bags and twin auto pumps (tap the air for inflation) w/ 2 channels. I have no reservations in the occasional 3klb grab of material. Cement is heavy after all.
 

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THIS is what I needed (wanted) to hear. I currently have nearly 3k lbs of payload in my old 2500HD, and have no problem grabbing full pallets of bricks/blocks/pavers/cement bags. I understand that I should not really do this with an f150, so partial pallets is fine (or just hook the trailer). But if the truck squats like crazy with just 1200 lbs in the bed, that would be dumb.
 

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I wouldn't do it regularly but sometimes convivence is worth it. The PB w/ adult occupant is 6klbs. The hybrid drive adds 800lbs to it over a non hybrid. Ford left large margins in its parts which can be exploited on occasion. Only the raptor's frame is beefier and it's made to do baja.
 

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Shoot. Your post was making me excited and then I saw you have a 4x2. 4x4 adds a whopping 312 lbs to the truck, directly out of the payload. Ouch.

Would a lightly optioned XLT 4x4 screw 6.5' really fall under 1500 lbs? I really want the hybrid fuel economy and power, plus the 7.2kW... but this payload is borderline unacceptable.

I am tempted to get one anyway, stuff airlift 5000s in the rear, and ignore the payload rating. But I'm trying to buy a truck to do 10+ years of family camper hauling, occasional equipment hauling on my 10k trailer, lumber and materials hauling, and daily driving. Losing 5 mpg to do this in a regular 3.5eb would be sad. ugh, what to do.
My MY22 Power Boost is 4x4, XLT 302A, 6.5'. It come in at 1645
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Keep in mind that Cat Scales round to the nearest 20lb on each axle, so it's possible that your weight is off a bit due to rounding. Further, they're calibrated for the trucks carrying tens of thousands of pounds, so they're likely assuming that being off by a hundred pounds or more are well within acceptable tolerances.

The 1787 figure was likely calculated based upon their known weights of all of the equipment that is on the truck; I don't think that they weigh each truck during the assembly process. (It would likely only deviate a pound or two from their calculated weight, given that they know the average weight of each component, and an individual weighing process would likely significantly slow down the manufacturing process for little benefit.) I would assume that the yellow sticker is more accurate than the Cat scale, if the numbers are reasonably close. Especially if you haven't done any after-market modifications.
You right about the grad size of 20 lbs. In Canada, the scale must be within 1 lb on every 1000 lbs. Because there is a charge for weighting vehicles, the scale has to be legal for trade, thus the 1/10 of 1 percent allowable error. Also, semi's weigh their axles on those scale and if there is the error your stating, they could be overweight and face hefty fines. For example, taking your 100 lbs off on 5500 lbs, and the semi is allowed 35,000 lbs per axle, (35,000 / 5500)*100=660 lbs over weight. Not a happy driver for sure.
 

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Be sure to note that you didn't arrive at that sweet Payload number without thorough research! :)
Indeed. I had a Ford list which gave actual/estimated weight addition for every option. IIRC my estimated cargo capacity was 1632#. Actual equaled 1645. I was happy with the result.
 

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