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I have a 2022 stx 4x4 5.0, Havent had experience with either tuner companies so i was wondering what tuner gives me the most tuneability and gains for our new gen trucks. If possible would like the diffrances, pros & cons of both.

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•Stock ported intake manifold
•s&b cai
•hooker blackheart shorty headers
•cats deleted
• 3 inch single catback with straight thru muffler
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I've yet to see before and after track runs or draggy times in videos. I really prefer apples to apples comparisons before and after with same fuel type. I know there is room for optimization but not as much as claimed.

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I know your question was about the tune, not the mods, but here it goes anyways

Since 2011 the 5.0 has come factory with shorty headers, so I am not sure what you expect to gain by putting different shorty headers on your 5.0 truck. Long tubes would net you higher end gains but could strip some low end power that a truck needs.

does Livernois do much with non boosted motors?
 

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Shorties are pita to install too. Long tubes are way easier to install

Long tubes would increase more power EVERYWHERE especially down low due to scavenging
 

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Shorties are pita to install too. Long tubes are way easier to install

Long tubes would increase more power EVERYWHERE especially down low due to scavenging
That’s certainly not the experience I had with my mustangs. Maybe it had more to do with going from a 2.5” to 3” exhaust, but I certainly lost power down low
 

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That’s certainly not the experience I had with my mustangs. Maybe it had more to do with going from a 2.5” to 3” exhaust, but I certainly lost power down low
Size of the primaries do effect that as well as mid pipe imo
Aftermarket typically offers a smaller primary on the truck
 
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I used Livernois in my 5.0 and they have been great to work with. I had to adjust the line pressure in the tranny to get the shifts where I wanted them and communication was great.
 
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My budys a tech at for he said to run shorties for now so i wouldnt void my warranty ill be getting 2m long tubes after it expires. But as far as tuning goes im on the fence with livernoise and 5 star.
 
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Ended up going with 5 star so lets see how it goes🙏🏾
 

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My budys a tech at for he said to run shorties for now so i wouldnt void my warranty ill be getting 2m long tubes after it expires. But as far as tuning goes im on the fence with livernoise and 5 star.
So your concerned about warranty in regards to headers...but the hell with the warranty you want to tune it. The tune will most certainly void your warranty if ford were to look for it.
 

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So your concerned about warranty in regards to headers...but the hell with the warranty you want to tune it. The tune will most certainly void your warranty if ford were to look for it.
Once he dropped that comment I decided my input was no longer needed or necessary
 

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