Lane Keep Assist (or Lane Centering) now auto-enables with Cruise Control

[Kanuck]

I don't have Blue Cruse and my lane centering works with or without the Cruse being on. My lane centering is the basic wheel shake then nudge the wheel back over.

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[rpold150]

I have a 22 platinum with BC. There is an option in Driver Assistance settings to turn on lane keeping with alert only, assistance only, or alert + assistance, so I have LK without using cruise control. When I activate CC, lane centering and BC will automatically turn on. It's done this since brand new. I just bought a mongoose and updated about 15 modules last weekend, and I haven't noticed anything different with LK.

 

[PaulGrun]

I don't have Blue Cruse and my lane centering works with or without the Cruse being on. My lane centering is the basic wheel shake then nudge the wheel back over.

There might be some confusion here. Ignoring Bluecruise:
- lane keeping gives haptic feedback (wheel shake) if you wander out of lane. It works independently of ACC (adaptive cruise control, whether cruise control is on or not.
- lane centering will (try to) keep the truck centered in the lane by actually steering the truck. It is active ONLY when cruise control is engaged.

it’s more than a little confusing because of Ford’s propensity for subtle and confusing feature names and because the same button is used to control both.

if you have Lane Centering enabled in SYNC, and cruise control is engaged, Lanr Keeping isn’t doing anything.

if you don’t have BlueCruise, and you have cruise control on and Lane Centering enabled, it’ll bark at you if you take your hands off the wheel for more than a few seconds, or if it decides you’re not doing enough of the steering.

 

[scott011422]

There might be some confusion here. Ignoring Bluecruise:
- lane keeping gives haptic feedback (wheel shake) if you wander out of lane. It works independently of ACC (adaptive cruise control, whether cruise control is on or not.
- lane centering will (try to) keep the truck centered in the lane by actually steering the truck. It is active ONLY when cruise control is engaged.

it’s more than a little confusing because of Ford’s propensity for subtle and confusing feature names and because the same button is used to control both.

if you have Lane Centering enabled in SYNC, and cruise control is engaged, Lanr Keeping isn’t doing anything.

if you don’t have BlueCruise, and you have cruise control on and Lane Centering enabled, it’ll bark at you if you take your hands off the wheel for more than a few seconds, or if it decides you’re not doing enough of the steering.

I guess I never knew what was what. I thought that was a function of BC when not on "Blue" roads. But thats actually all the lane centering. didn't know that.

 

[Kanuck]

I stand corrected ...I have lane keeping. It turns on when my basic cruse control is turned on. Never did before last FDRS updates in January.

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[PaulGrun]

I guess I never knew what was what. I thought that was a function of BC when not on "Blue" roads. But thats actually all the lane centering. didn't know that.

I’m not sure but strongly suspect that Lane Centering is the same whether BlueCruise or not. In other words, Lane Centering is a function of Cruise Control. What I described above is how my non-BlueCruise truck behaves. I would bet it’s the same for a BlueCruise truck.

Further - there’s good reason to suspect that Lane Centering is the base technology underneath BlueCruise. In other words, BlueCruise uses Lane Centering to steer the truck. If so, what BlueCruise adds is:
1. enables hands free (vs making you keep hands on the wheel),
2. Only works on so-called blue routes, and,
3. Adds the nanny cam to make sure you’re not sleeping or reading a book or something.
4. Gives Ford an added revenue stream.

Some guys have experimented with hanging a weight on the steering wheel to make a (non-BlueCruise) truck think you have your hands on the wheel, creating sort of a poor man’s BlueCruise.

 

[Snakebitten]

I’m not sure but strongly suspect that Lane Centering is the same whether BlueCruise or not. In other words, itsWhat I described above is how my non-BlueCruise truck behaves. I would bet it’s the same for a BlueCruise truck.

Further - there’s good reason to suspect that Lane Centering is the base technology underneath BlueCruise. In other words, BlueCruise uses Lane Centering to steer the truck. If so, what BlueCruise adds is:
1. enables hands free (vs making you keep hands on the wheel),
2. Only works on so-called blue routes, and,
3. Adds the nanny cam to make sure you’re not sleeping or reading a book or something.
4. Gives Ford an added revenue stream.

Some guys have experimented with hanging a weight on the steering wheel to make a (non-BlueCruise) truck think you have your hands on the wheel, creating sort of a poor man’s BlueCruise.

I couldn't agree more!
I do so few Bluecruise miles that I disabled the eye scanner so that I could enjoy the Hands-On version of Bluecruise every day. (recently turned it back on for some testing)

However, with the added functionality of BC 1.4, there will be a difference in the two feature sets regarding lane changing. I'm not sure if Lane Centering will nudge away from a large vehicle adjacent or not, but for the reasons you cited, I don't know why it couldn't.
The one reason the nudge might not carry over to non-Bluecruise is that the feature itself could be an option you set in Sync4, and who knows if that option gets populated into a non-Bluecruise truck?

 

[Boen]

I have the bluecruise and just got back from a 2000 mile trip and the speed limit was 80 so at 81 no blue so I would hang the weight on the wheel,

 

[superfordman]

Well, that at least confirms I'm not crazy, and that something did change.

Sure enough tried it out today and mine does the same. With lane assist/centering turned off, as soon as you turn on cruise it turns itself back on right away. Will play around and see if there is a way to disable it.

You could always disable lane keep and centering and this would keep it from engaging, unless you like to still use it frequently.

 

[Pedaldude]

I haven’t really driven my truck on the highway in a while. I did have it at the dealer recently for a new battery and they did the wiper recall.

Last time that I was messing with lane centering as well as the first time the way it worked was like a toggle; so whatever you set it to last time is whatever it was set at the next time you utilized it.

Having these auto-default settings and stupid bullshit like the self canceling recirculate reduces situational awareness.

Things like lane centering and cruise control are supposed to reduce the driver’s work load and make things safer but having unexpected outcomes and needing unnecessary button pushing is contrary to that goal.

I usually leave lane centering on along with my cruise control and while it would annoy me if I had to turn it on every time if Ford decided it would cancel along with the CC. It would almost make more sense than what Ford decided to so which just seems like an afterthought.

Also; why can’t Ford figure out how to leave the drive mode in Eco without me having to reselect it every time I start the truck?

 

[sp468]

I just completed a 1000 mile trip pulling my travel trailer. Every time I activated the adaptive cruise control lane centering would also turn on and I would have to turn it off with the steering wheel button. Very annoying. According to page 322/323 of the 2021 owners manual, you are suppose to be able to turn lane centering off:

Enabling and Disabling Lane Centering
1. Press Features on the touchscreen.
2. Press Driver Assistance.
3. Press Cruise Control.
4. Press Lane Centering Assist.

I have it disabled but for some reason it never is.

 

[Kanuck]

I stand corrected ...I have lane keeping. It turns on when my basic cruse control is turned on. Never did before last FDRS updates in January.

Thanks

If I took the time to READ the message that shows on the IPC .... I would know it is LANE KEEPING....LOL

 

[Bob Violence]

These are some of the BC 1.4 software updates. I noticed these values in the forscan sheet a while back and now they are finally being rolled out. I kinda wonder what they did exactly and this must be it. In the IPMA towards the bottom there are some values related to these instant on features. You may try to disabled them and that might get you back to just cruise enabling normally.

				CustomerSetting_IACCSetSCOnOff_Vehicle (CSIACCSSCOOV) • Reserved1 (R)
706-37-01	x*xx	xxxx	xx--	0 =	CSIACCSSCOOV Off • R Unused		8 =	CSIACCSSCOOV On • R Unused

				CustomerSetting_IACCInstantSCOnOff_Vehicle (CSIACCISCOOV) • Reserved3 (R)
706-37-01	xxx*	xxxx	xx--	0 =	CSIACCISCOOV Off • R Unused		8 =	CSIACCISCOOV On • R Unused

Was back in the truck today with FORSCAN connected in order to make sure my previous changes were all still there, and took a long, hard look at the values you reference. From the spreadsheet, viewing all the tabs for the IPMA model years and BC, I just couldn't decipher what it is or what I needed to change. I see "ACC" referenced, which I am sure translates into Adaptive Cruise Control, but beyond that I was kinda stuck.

 

[PaulGrun]

Well, this is weird. Now I’m thinking that I’m the one who’s crazy;

After reading the thread, I tried it out:
- ‘22 XLT PB 302A
- NON Bluecruise
- wanted to report my latest SYNC/Power up update, but my FordPass app is brain dead and does NOT correctly report recent revisions in the message center, and the only thing shown in the Software Updates section is the recent change to address the Stop Safeky Now and Radio Presets issues. (Why can’t Ford make its FordPass App useable???)

So I tried it out -
Whenever I turn on ACC, it most definitely leaves Lane CENTERING set to whatever the last mode was. So if I had Lane Centering off, and I turn ACC off, the next time I turn ACC on, Lane Centering will still be OFF. And vice versa.

This is different from what most of you guys on this thread are reporting.

I love this truck in almost ALL respects, but I am very very tired of Ford’s non-existent ability to manage something as simple as software updates, much less provide a useable app that is not a PITA to use.

I am equally annoyed at how piss poor the FordPass app is, and at how equally bad Ford.com is for current users.

Hey, @Ford Motor Company bot, ARE YOU LISTENING? Throw a few dollars into it and make your owners’ experience much, much better. Contact me if you want specific areas for improvement.

 

[BRDVPRA]

It's part of the changes coming with BC 1.4

Am I reading this correctly that the 21s will also get LCA, In lane repositioning, and predictive speed assist?

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