Ford OEM power running boards install a plug-n-play?

[ReverendQ]

At you getting any kinds of codes now on the DSM for the PRBs?
When you had it sitting like you did in the cab, did opening and closing the door make it act like it should?
Hard to say what you have going on at this point. Too many different variables at play.

What are your values for the following addresses?

At you getting any kinds of codes now on the DSM for the PRBs?
When you had it sitting like you did in the cab, did opening and closing the door make it act like it should?
Hard to say what you have going on at this point. Too many different variables at play.

What are your values for the following addresses?

Thanks for getting back to me Troy,
No codes for the PRBs in DSM. Only DTC are the expected ones for seat position sensors I do not have. The only other DSM related issue I observe is my fan under the driver's seat does not move. I thought I had a bad fan, but I tried a new one today and it did not function either.

I don't recall if I tried opening and closing the doors to test the PRB after Self-Test. I did notice that using FDRS when I run the self-test the battery voltage is much lower, and the icon is not green. Do the PRB settings in Features matter during DSM Self-Test, OFF, ON, or AUTO for PRB?

The values in 744-25-01 to 02 are the same as in your spreadsheet. I was assuming these would change with a successful self-test calibration. If you have values for F250 PRB please forward them to me.

UPDATE 24/06/23
After thinking about it a bit I thought maybe PRB won't work if battery SOC is too low (sub 85%) so I put the charger on the battery overnight to get the battery to SOC 91%. I turned OFF 3rd party ambient LEDs in case they were noisy or too much load on power line. Turned all HVAC including seat cooling OFF, cleared all DTC and re-ran the DSM calibration with the bracket motors on the floor, doors shut, initial settings in features to PRB OFF, key ON, ignition OFF. Both motors appeared to complete the calibration. Ran it again, same positive results.

Then turned ignition ON, Turned the PRB ON in Features and opened the door they deployed. Turned them OFF they stowed. Turn them to Auto they stayed deployed for a few seconds and then stowed. Turned them ON they deployed. Turned them OFF they stowed. Seems to work as intended.

They appear to function correctly at least sitting on the floor of the cab.

I'll try mounting them when I can stand to be outside more than 10 minutes. It hot as H E double toothpicks even with a bit of Pacific breeze. I cannot imagine how the rest of you are surviving if having to work outside on our beloved trucks. Stay hydrated and safe. I'll update this when time permits.

I do suspect there may be issues with 8" IPC to troubleshoot, but not sure yet. That is, I have DTC in IPC and SCCM since I started messing with PRB installation. @superfordman, Are there PRB settings in any of the IPC menus? If so, know the FORScan changes?

UPDATE 24/06/28
It appears that the passenger side motor bracket is oddly intermittent. It fails fast when mounted (grounded) to the truck but take longer to fail if on the floor of truck (not grounded). It appears to also cause the DTC shown here.

I am requesting a replacement from the eBay seller (fingers crossed). And unfortunately, in all my troubleshooting I managed to damage the passenger side harness connector. Hoping @hammerman can help me there.

Oddly, I have to unplug the motor, set PRB to OFF, clear DTC, and then plugin the motor and if not mounted it will work a few times as it should but once I mount it, it sometimes works but then stops functioning as it should.

@superfordman does this silent DTC show in your F250 on F150? I do suspect however that it is caused by the intermittent motor. If get a replacement them maybe I will know.

@Jesse-Infotainment do you know what this DTC means?

Thanks,

Kevin

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[ReverendQ]

For those of you who like me did not get the bolts for attaching the running boards to the brackets, here is what worked for me on my F250 take-offs. Got them at Home Depot.

 

[superfordman]

I do suspect there may be issues with 8" IPC to troubleshoot, but not sure yet. That is, I have DTC in IPC and SCCM since I started messing with PRB installation. @superfordman, Are there PRB settings in any of the IPC menus? If so, know the FORScan changes?

@superfordman does this silent DTC show in your F250 on F150? I do suspect however that it is caused by the intermittent motor. If get a replacement them maybe I will know.

It has nothing to do with the IPC so no changes are needed there.

I never had any DTCs on mine with it all installed and working like it should, so sounds like you might actually have a faulty motor then.

 

[ds1986]

yEAH THE BOARD ARE THE BIG COST. tHE REST NOT TOO BAD. i HAVE A dsm HERE SO yOU CAN HAVE THAT ONE FOR YOURS. yOU WONT NEED A HARNESS i CAN DO THE WIRING. sO JUST BUY THE BOARDS.. tHATS ALL YOU NEED.

jesse,

I have a buddy that will sell me just the boards… will I need anything else for you to install them? I’ll be in dfw Sunday - Tuesday next week.

 

[superfordman]

@ReverendQ any luck/progress recently?

 

[ReverendQ]

@ReverendQ any luck/progress recently?

Nah, awaiting a new passenger motor bracket. I had them work for an evening, next morning it seized stowed. Fingers crossed the eBay seller comes thru on an exchange. Finishing my leather on back seats and putting in the locking seat parts this weekend.

EDIT 24/08/16
Success. After forgetting to reverse the motor drivers wires from F150 harness to F250 motor brackets and having an intermittent short in the Passenger side motor I finally have a working set of PRB. I sealed the floor where the harness goes through, dialectic grease everything outside., all continue to function to my and my bride's satisfaction. I am calling this modification complete and I certainly recommend it. Thanks @superfordman , @JJSnell , @Iceman2022 , and all those before me. A special shout out to @HammaMan who supplied the harness and held my virtual hand through the ups and downs. I am not sure I have any tips except maybe below but if anyone considering or doing this needs a little advice or encouragement, hit me up.

EDIT 24/08/09
I really thought that adding PRB would be simple compared to adding ACC, Ventilated Seats, locking back seats, solar power, light bar, CHMSL, a myriad of ForScan hacks, etc., however this project has been the Bain of my existence for weeks now, but I think I am close if not done adding PRB.

I received the replacement Passenger Motor Bracket this week but of course it had an issue. The bolt attaching the bar to the back would not insert from the flat side. I had to reverse it and run it through with a driver to clear the threads. I suspect somebody cock-eyed it previously.

I mounted both motor brackets and the boards with all associated Torx bolts tight but nuts half-a-wrist tight (loose), and then tested with bench power to check for binding and to let everything seat where it wants (@HammaMan tip). I advise doing the same when mounting these if you can. Loose nuts just a hair tight to let brackets kind of go where they will. Boards tight, brackets quarter past hand tight flush.

Then I attached the truck harnesses to the motor brackets with PRB set to Deployed in the APIM as they were deployed. With the truck started, shut all doors and tried Stowed (Off), no luck, tried Auto and opening door, no luck. They just wouldn't function or move at all.

I then connected FDRS, ran DSM Self-Test, and both motors appeared to function correctly. I disconnected FDRS and with truck running, PRB set to Approach Detection ON, opened Driver door and they Deployed. I closed door and after time-out they Stowed. Operated various modal tests with truck on and all worked. I smiled and grinned thinking no simple technology can defeat this prideful engineer.

I was ready to claim a cautious victory, however, when I went to walk the dogs about an hour later, I noticed the Passenger was Deployed and the Driver side Stowed. I used the keypad to unlock and Driver Deployed. I keypad locked and both Stowed.

I am now keeping a side-ways eye on them before I button them completely: install some thermal grease, zip ties, conduit and padding, I will try them for a week more to be sure they remain operable and consistent. Fingers crossed and prayers welcome (not really, pray for more important things).

TGIF,
ReverendQ

 

[Manga_Spawn]

Hi All. Just signed up as I was going through this thread and trying to figure out how to add these. I had this option selected with I ordered my 2023 F150 Powerboost Lariat however the truck showed up with the standard side steps. I very much suspect the dealer didn't put the order in correctly. They gave me some BS about these not being an option if you also selected the FX4 package which is 100% a lie since I have seen multiple trucks with both. Anyways I am a little lost on what all I need to purchase besides the side steps and motors. I checked the DSM underneath the drivers seat and it is MU5T-14C708-BH. Truck has heated and cooled seats already from the factory. Do I need a different DSM? Or just reprogram this one? I have a forscan cable and laptop already.

I am not sure what to look for to see if there are existing plugs at all for the power running boards. I hate wiring stuff so I'd love to just buy the harness if that is at all possible. This thread has already been really helpful I just don't want to buy a bunce of stuff I don't need or the wrong things.

 

[ReverendQ]

MU5Z14C708G for sure, not sure of yours. You could just try it.
If wiring is there your good. I can’t see but I think one of @superfordman post shows a diagram where to look.

Are you doing F250 or F150 take-offs.

 

[Manga_Spawn]

MU5Z14C708G for sure, not sure of yours. You could just try it.
If wiring is there your good. I can’t see but I think one of @superfordman post shows a diagram where to look.

Are you doing F250 or F150 take-offs.

Cool I‘ll look back for that post. Not 100% decided on which one but probably the f250 take offs since they are so much more affordable than f150 ones. I don’t mind the lower step because my wife is short and it’ll work for her.

 

[Manga_Spawn]

I was just going to reply that.. I guess I gotta look farther up the line.

I found this post in a different thread on this topic. Is this the correct place to look for the plugs on a 2023?

 

[antidecaf]

@superfordman @Jesse-Infotainment Thanks for all of the information in this thread. Unfortunately I must be extremely dense because I can't follow in a way that makes me confident I could do this install.

I have a 2023 Lightning XLT 312A, so it does have the powered front seats. Does anyone have a step by step tutorial on doing this, written for someone with the brain of a five year old?

I'm also in Austin and would totally be willing to go to Dallas to get it done if that is an option. Thanks y'all.

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

@superfordman @Jesse-Infotainment Thanks for all of the information in this thread. Unfortunately I must be extremely dense because I can't follow in a way that makes me confident I could do this install.

I have a 2023 Lightning XLT 312A, so it does have the powered front seats. Does anyone have a step by step tutorial on doing this, written for someone with the brain of a five year old?

I'm also in Austin and would totally be willing to go to Dallas to get it done if that is an option. Thanks y'all.

If you wanted to come to dallas I can do it. The harness will work for your truck. I dotn have any instructions. We just received the production harnesses.

 

[antidecaf]

If you wanted to come to dallas I can do it. The harness will work for your truck. I dotn have any instructions. We just received the production harnesses.

That is extremely generous thank you. Are the boards and motors the only parts I would need to have with me?

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

That is extremely generous thank you. Are the boards and motors the only parts I would need to have with me?

You need a DSM and DSM mounting bracket unless you want me to provide that also.

 

[antidecaf]

You need a DSM and DSM mounting bracket unless you want me to provide that also.

It looks like the Super Duty boards will fit the F150 with maybe a lower step depth. Would these boards and this DSM work?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2260221538...uid=t_18Bt5kSIG&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3948797472...uid=t_18Bt5kSIG&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I am not finding the mounting bracket for the module...

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