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Can someone answer why there is such a big difference between Remaining payload and Remaining GCW under capabilities as configured. How can you have so much remaining GCW but not much remaining payload.
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I have max tow and am rated at 13,900 lbs, everything else is accurate as well. Good find!
 

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It says I have a Lariat with a 6.5 foot bed.

I don't.
That is NOT good news... Is your window sticker available yet? You had better look up your VIN on the ford tracker and scan alllllll the specs. One of my dealers missed an option that I very specifically had on the build sheet I approved.

Could be dealer sent you wrong VIN, or screwed up your order!
 

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Can someone answer why there is such a big difference between Remaining payload and Remaining GCW under capabilities as configured. How can you have so much remaining GCW but not much remaining payload.
This is exactly what all experts on these forums have been saying about the F150's towing capability being bogus or a moot point, because you run out of payload WAY before you can ever come close to the GCVWR. This is pretty much normal unless you get a beast of an Ecoboost XL or an HDPP.
 

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That is NOT good news... Is your window sticker available yet? You had better look up your VIN on the ford tracker and scan alllllll the specs. One of my dealers missed an option that I very specifically had on the build sheet I approved.

Could be dealer sent you wrong VIN, or screwed up your order!
Okay, now I feel stupid.

The last vin in my clip app was not mine. ?

Mine does show correctly!
 

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I know this is probably way over my head but can anyone shed some light on why an identically configured 3.5l Ecoboost has over 400lb of payload capacity more than the 2.7l ?

Not an engineer, but I would have assumed payload would be defined by things like brakes and springs which would be the same.
 
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I know this is probably way over my head but can anyone shed some light on why an identically configured 3.5l Ecoboost has over 400lb of payload capacity more than the 2.7l ?

Not an engineer, but I would have assumed payload would be defined by things like brakes and springs which would be the same.
It’s because the GVWR on the 2.7 is about 300lb less than the 3.5. Why that is I am uncertain.
 

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This is exactly what all experts on these forums have been saying about the F150's towing capability being bogus or a moot point, because you run out of payload WAY before you can ever come close to the GCVWR. This is pretty much normal unless you get a beast of an Ecoboost XL or an HDPP.
We looked at RAMs too before buying our F-150, and they were just as bad with payload. My minivan has about the same payload as my F-150. Most trucks here (mine included) are basically luxury vehicles that can do some light towing, and that's it.
 

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Mine says Remaining GCW is 11,000 remaining, but my max trailer weight is 7000. I have a PB XLT 302A with the tow technology and a class iv hitch. does this mean I have to keep it at 7000 or can I get to the GCW?
 

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Playing around with this tool really confirms my thoughts on the Max Tow Package. On a Lariat or above trim with the Power Boost, I see absolutely no advantage over the regular towing. When adding a larger trailer, I run out of payload way before I get near the tow capacity so the Max Tow does not help. The regular tow package is 11,000 which is already huge and I honestly would not want to tow that much with a F150 anyway. I understand everyone had different needs and some are willing to go beyond the limits but I'm very pleased that I didn't spend the extra for something I cant use.
 

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This is exactly what all experts on these forums have been saying about the F150's towing capability being bogus or a moot point, because you run out of payload WAY before you can ever come close to the GCVWR. This is pretty much normal unless you get a beast of an Ecoboost XL or an HDPP.
It's still very useful for those of us who don't have a lot of payload in the truck. For example, I pull a horse trailer and usually drive alone. All the weight is in the trailer, so payload isn't as much of an issue for me as towing capacity.
 

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Very awesome they did this, would have been much more helpful when I was shopping around, but my payload is coming in around where I was hoping/expecting at 1563lbs payload. They should have this built in with the build and price tool, so you can see these numbers based on the options selected, at least roughly, would have made the purchasing process much faster. I had to wait to see real payload stickers for configurations I was considering before buying. I would have bought a month earlier if this information was available sooner.
 

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Mine says Remaining GCW is 11,000 remaining, but my max trailer weight is 7000. I have a PB XLT 302A with the tow technology and a class iv hitch. does this mean I have to keep it at 7000 or can I get to the GCW?
What that means is your truck load reached it's limit because of payload. If you put a trailer behind it with an axle in the from and one in the back, i.e. a hay trailer with zero tongue weight you can pull the full 13,900.
 

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What that means is your truck load reached it's limit because of payload. If you put a trailer behind it with an axle in the from and one in the back, i.e. a hay trailer with zero tongue weight you can pull the full 13,900.
This is with no trailer or payload weight.
Ford F-150 Ford Launches VIN Specific Calculator!  See your F-150's exact payload, GVWR, GCWR, and more! F-150 Vehicle Spec 0lb.JPG

This is what it says after I put the hypothetical 7000lb trailer. The remaining numbers on the bottom left are still quite high.
Ford F-150 Ford Launches VIN Specific Calculator!  See your F-150's exact payload, GVWR, GCWR, and more! F-150 Vehicle Spec.JPG

What is stopping someone from adding another say 2000 lbs to the trailer as shown below?
Ford F-150 Ford Launches VIN Specific Calculator!  See your F-150's exact payload, GVWR, GCWR, and more! F-150 Vehicle Spec 9000lb.JPG
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