Is this sarcasm? What BENEFITS are there in turning a pistol into an SBR? In no way does turning something that was once classified as nothing more than a standard handgun (no different than a Glock pistol or a S&W revolver) into an SBR have benefits.Turning an AR receiver into an SBR has loads of benefits.
Well an AR receiver is one of, if not the most universal platform. As I stated, converting an AR receiver to an SBR has loads of benefits. Perhaps not in the commie states. I carry an SBR ps90 w/ at least 2 50rnd mags on it where it's close at hand in a vehicle. It's got a suppressor in its small carry bag as well. I also have a 5.7 pistol for the same reason. AR style pistols w/ braces aren't very concealable.Is this sarcasm? What BENEFITS are there in turning a pistol into an SBR? In no way does turning something that was once classified as nothing more than a standard handgun (no different than a Glock pistol or a S&W revolver) into an SBR have benefits.
When you convert a receiver into an SBR it can be used however you want it to be. I didn't say convert a pistol receiver into an SBR -- I said receiver in general. SBRs are whatever you want them to be when converted. AR receivers are dirt cheap. You can finish one yourself and nobody's the wiser. You can still pull the brace off and have a shitty attempt at an SBR.@HammaMan, your response does NOT identify even a single benefit of converting a handgun (e.g., an AR-15 currently in a pistol configuration with a stabilizing brace or blade) into a short barreled rifle.
Not one.
Next, if you can carry an SBR concealed, then you can carry a handgun concealed - so making an handgun into an SBR provides ZERO benefit regarding CCW.
What it DOES do is require you have to ASK PERMISSION from the BATFE to transport it across state lines. Not so for a handgun.
The fact that a very limited few people can carry an SBR concealed is irrelevant, as MOST law-abiding citizens cannot, with or without a concealed carry permit.
I'll continue to wait for you to identify the "loads of benefits" of converting a handgun into an SBR.
You also avoided commenting on the other seven disadvantages that I posted.
Before I start, let me say that what I'm saying below is also predicated on whether not a particular STATE law does nor does not prohibit something. For example, SBRs are illegal in CA and I do not believe AR15 pistols are on the MA roster of approved firearms.1. When you convert a receiver into an SBR it can be used however you want it to be.
Again, you can NOT register an incomplete firearm (an AR receiver alone) as a SBR, as it does not have a barrel length, caliber or OAL to complete the Form 1. You register complete firearms as SBRs, not pieces of a firearm.I didn't say convert a pistol receiver into an SBR -- I said receiver in general.
So are non-registered (non-NFA) receivers. See above. You can build WHATEVER the heck you want out of a stripped lower or a lower that's not yet part of a complete firearm. Registering it as a SBR allows you to do ONE thing only that you can't do with a non-NFA registered item: Configure it as an NFA item (e.g, SBR)SBRs are whatever you want them to be when converted.
Honestly, I've lost count.You can finish one yourself and nobody's the wiser.
Incorrect. If you remove the stabilizing brace or blade, you now have (depending upon OAL) either a handgun (no stock) or a firearm (over 26" OAL).You can still pull the brace off and have a shitty attempt at an SBR.
On this point, we almost agree. It's not by letter of the (statutory) LAW that 'anything that attempts in any way to regulate arms in general' is a violation of the Constitution. It's by the exact letter of the CONSTITUTION (specifically, the BOR amendments) that make those attempts to regulate arms a violation of the Constitution.By the exact letter of the law, anything that attempts in any way to regulate arms in general, is a blatant violation of the constitution, and therefore null and void.
So do I. Because I used to BE a LEO (~10 years).Furthermore, I know many LEOs
First, most LEOs are NOT gun nuts. They do their 2x annual range qualification and possess their firearms ONLY when on duty. So this is most certainly something we can agree on. However, your grasp of federal law regarding NFA firearms is, based on what you have posted thus far in this thread, is severely lacking.and only 1 of them understands the laws regarding NFA as well as I do.
Ask any gun aficionado who is very cognizant of his/her rights and agrees that the governments should not be regulating a God-given right protected by the 2nd Amendment, and they will tell you that they lost all their firearms last week in an unfortunate boating accident, too.What I don't know quite well is how to drive a boat. I couldn't tell you how many dozens of guns I've lost at sea. Maybe I'll learn one day.
You’re misunderstand the proposed rule change, at least as I understand it ANY gun that could generally be considered a rifle, is now a rifle, period. Taking the brace off doesn’t matter as the buffer tube and the entire assembly is generally defined as a rifle, so it is a rifle.When you convert a receiver into an SBR it can be used however you want it to be. I didn't say convert a pistol receiver into an SBR -- I said receiver in general. SBRs are whatever you want them to be when converted. AR receivers are dirt cheap. You can finish one yourself and nobody's the wiser. You can still pull the brace off and have a shitty attempt at an SBR.
By the exact letter of the law, anything that attempts in any way to regulate arms in general, is a blatant violation of the constitution, and therefore null and void.
Furthermore, I know many LEOs and only 1 of them understands the laws regarding NFA as well as I do. Granted as a type 7 you end up knowing ATF agents too. What I don't know quite well is how to drive a boat. I couldn't tell you how many dozens of guns I've lost at sea. Maybe I'll learn one day.
I personally feel safer knowing a good percentage of people in Texas are carrying a firearm when I am out buying groceries or at any other public place. A good guy with a gun isn't just going to protect themselves but also everyone around them from evil if the situation happened to occur.Heaven forbid I cannot take a lethal firearm to go to the store to buy groceries - how scary is that?
We have become a nation of frightened wimps who need guns to feel safe. Sad times indeed.
Nah, you'd never need to protect yourself or your family from a violent criminal in a grocery store:Heaven forbid I cannot take a lethal firearm to go to the store to buy groceries - how scary is that?
We have become a nation of frightened wimps who need guns to feel safe. Sad times indeed.