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Thank you and that is the disappointing part about Ford and we know they plan on leaving these trucks with issues. If Ford has found they need to update the module, then I don't think you can say that it shouldn't be pushed /updated to the trucks. If there is no benefit in getting it to the truck, then why did they see the need to update it.
The sudden (and recent) arrival of OTA might imply that the manufacturer intends for every vehicle they manufacture to be kept up to date on every software update for every module.

But that's never been true historically before OTA.

Sure, a TSB or Recall might be an update that the manufacturer would support 100% compliance and the dealership efforts required to deliver, but that's still a long ways off from all vehicles having all available updates all the time.

OTA definitely changes our expectations.
This thread and the rapid expansion of autonomy that it affords the customer has only increased those expectations. But I don't know if we can say that Ford expects every F150 they build to have every available update be installed. Of course I do, simply because I can decide for myself. (Regardless if OTA can or will be the delivery method)

 

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The sudden (and recent) arrival of OTA might imply that the manufacturer intends for every vehicle they manufacture to be kept up to date on every software update for every module.

But that's never been true historically before OTA.

Sure, a TSB or Recall might be an update that the manufacturer would support 100% compliance and the dealership efforts required to deliver, but that's still a long ways off from all vehicles having all available updates all the time.

OTA definitely changes our expectations.
This thread and the rapid expansion of autonomy that it affords the customer has only increased those expectations. But I don't know if we can say that Ford expects every F150 they build to have every available update be installed. Of course I do, simply because I can decide for myself. (Regardless if OTA can or will be the delivery method)
I'm driving a Lightning now (it happens to already be in the shop - different thread and forum), but since these trucks and the last couple of years of the ICE 150 depend so much on SW it just shows how Ford is missing the mark. They've had 10 years to copy and study Tesla and they are still so far behind they can't even see the taillights. if you want to make excuses for them, we will always get what we already have.

They have a chance in '23 as they upgrade to the Android OS or one more as they completely revamp the EV version. Will see if they will compete or fold.
 

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In preparation for the FDRS updating path which I will probably be going down I need to get a charger/maintainer, for which I know very little about. I have read that it should be at least 5 amps and support AGM batteries. This one is fairly cheap and looks like it foots the bill for my limited needs.

Anyone see any problems with this. Thanks.

Schumacher Electric Fully Automatic Rapid Battery Charger and Maintainer – 8 Amp, 12V - Walmart.com
I do. Weak—only 8 amps—and no ability to run in power supply mode. I’d stick with the one @iceman77 recommended when he started this thread: the Clore Automotive PL2320 20A charger. https://www.amazon.com/Clore-Automotive-PL2320-Battery-Maintainer-20/dp/B007ESQW08/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3ROCD3C7J2F9&keywords=solar+20A+battery+charger&qid=1659813596&sprefix=solar+20a+battery+charger,aps,73&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do:amzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840. Prices have gone up for the Clore but occasionally (not currently) you can get the exact same charger from Napa under its Carlyle brand for less. CPL2320 at Napa.

The power demands for programming are not the same as they are for charging.
 

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Man, Mach E & Lightning trucks are getting Power Up 3.3 and beyond and we are just sitting here at 2.8.3. Granted it's just Alexa, but still where's them updates for us.
 


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Man, Mach E & Lightning trucks are getting Power Up 3.3 and beyond and we are just sitting here at 2.8.3. Granted it's just Alexa, but still where's them updates for us.
You are a glutton for punishment. You know you won‘t get Alexa. Ford will probably push you something that came out around the time of the Palm Pilot with really cool features, like an abacus.
 

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You are a glutton for punishment. You know you won‘t get Alexa. Ford will probably push you something that came out around the time of the Palm Pilot with really cool features, like an abacus.
Hahahah ain't that the truth
 

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Has anyone had trouble activating your FDRS license? I've downloaded all of the software and purchased a license but when I try and activate it it fails. I've double checked all network & firewall settings but it won't work.

When I purchased the 2 Day license there wasn't a FDRS version, just the FJDS version but my understanding was that the license is the same. I followed the links in this thread and directly from the Mastercraft site but this is all I see:
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I'm assuming its operator error (isn't it always?) but if anyone has any tips it would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Has anyone had trouble activating your FDRS license? I've downloaded all of the software and purchased a license but when I try and activate it it fails. I've double checked all network & firewall settings but it won't work.

When I purchased the 2 Day license there wasn't a FDRS version, just the FJDS version but my understanding was that the license is the same. I followed the links in this thread and directly from the Mastercraft site but this is all I see:
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I'm assuming its operator error (isn't it always?) but if anyone has any tips it would be greatly appreciated.
Did you set up accounts on both websites—the one where you bought the software and motorcraftservice.com? You can use the same credentials for both accounts for convenience, but you need to set up an account here http://www2.helminc.com/ngsm/login....4119969BB71E08853AE2&from=ford&src=motorcraft AND here https://www.motorcraftservice.com/. You use the credentials you set up on motorcraftservice.com to log into FDRS.
 

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Did you set up accounts on both websites—the one where you bought the software and motorcraftservice.com? You can use the same credentials for both accounts for convenience, but you need to set up an account here http://www2.helminc.com/ngsm/login....4119969BB71E08853AE2&from=ford&src=motorcraft AND here https://www.motorcraftservice.com/. You use the credentials you set up on motorcraftservice.com to log into FDRS.
I haven’t created the second account yet as I haven’t been able to get that far in FDRS. I get the add a license pop-up but am unable to get it to verify my license. My only options are to check network settings and quit.

**Edit: It turns out I did have a Motorcraft Service ID but still no difference in adding the license to FDRS
 
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I haven’t created the second account yet as I haven’t been able to get that far in FDRS. I get the add a license pop-up but am unable to get it to verify my license. My only options are to check network settings and quit.

**Edit: It turns out I did have a Motorcraft Service ID but still no difference in adding the license to FDRS
Are you logging in as Non-dealer Motorcraft? Use the drop down to select the kind of user you are.
 

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Are you logging in as Non-dealer Motorcraft? Use the drop down to select the kind of user you are.
Until I add the license I'm not able to interact with the program at all. It just keeps giving me the 'unable to verify license' message. I've been cutting/pasting it as well as double checking to make sure there aren't any typos but no bueno.
 

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Since Alexa is already in the 2022, I would assume that it will be compatible with the 2021?
 

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I'm driving a Lightning now (it happens to already be in the shop - different thread and forum), but since these trucks and the last couple of years of the ICE 150 depend so much on SW it just shows how Ford is missing the mark. They've had 10 years to copy and study Tesla and they are still so far behind they can't even see the taillights. if you want to make excuses for them, we will always get what we already have.

They have a chance in '23 as they upgrade to the Android OS or one more as they completely revamp the EV version. Will see if they will compete or fold.
What excuses?

Just pointing out that there are modules that can't even be communicated with via current OTA, so you'd have to visit the dealership. And there may be an update that might only need to be applied if the vehicle is experiencing a particular symptom.

Tesla didn't exactly get off to a smooth start in their first year of their version OTA. And they aren't immune to issues either.
 

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Until I add the license I'm not able to interact with the program at all. It just keeps giving me the 'unable to verify license' message. I've been cutting/pasting it as well as double checking to make sure there aren't any typos but no bueno.
Only thing I can think of is that the code you received is bad for some reason. If you are clicking Add License and getting an unable to verify message, I don’t know what to tell you. Did you buy it here?: http://www2.helminc.com/ngsm/login....4119969BB71E08853AE2&from=ford&src=motorcraft. If so, you can log in and retrieve your code and try again.

Did you by chance try the code on another computer? If you did, you have to release it on the other computer before you can reuse it. The code is attached to the computer, not the user.

 

 
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