Davexxxx
Well-known member
I think people are giving the OP a harder time than is deserved.
On some things, yeah, if you didn't like the truck, don't buy it but there have been plenty of examples of things going wrong, with long wait times, multiple attempts for correction and poor communication from Ford.
Whether that would have been different with a different manufacturer, I just don't keep close track of such things but I doubt it. The supply chain problem is decades in the making, global and fluid. Covid was the perfect storm.
I see lots of people mention that their 21-22 trucks are better equipped than 23s.
Meh.
I don't care that I won't have a cup holder light. Heated steering wheel? Can't miss what you've never had.
Bed camera delete kinds sucks but not enough to kill the deal.
We all make our choices at particular moments in time. What and for how much vs. need.
What a 23 buyer knows that the earlier buyers didn't? That Max Tow, especially on a PB, is an expensive option, that is mostly un-needed and has a built in problem. Thats worth several grand right there.
That those that bet on the come re Blue Cruise, may be underwhelmed. Another expensive option avoided.
My only actual gripe if you will, so far, is the inability to keep 18" wheels, on the 502a. I'd have liked the dynamic headlights but didn't want to give up the payload.
Well, one more, it should be much easier to have a decent idea of payload, without having to do so much independent research.
Once you've been through it, it isn't that bad but if you didn't know about the E-Source Book and Builder's Guide, which I didn't, until hitting the forums, its a total crap shoot and the several salespeople I talked to weren't ANY help, ranging from having no idea, to outright lying. It shouldn't be that way and one can only assume it is to unnecessarily push people toward Super Duties.
On some things, yeah, if you didn't like the truck, don't buy it but there have been plenty of examples of things going wrong, with long wait times, multiple attempts for correction and poor communication from Ford.
Whether that would have been different with a different manufacturer, I just don't keep close track of such things but I doubt it. The supply chain problem is decades in the making, global and fluid. Covid was the perfect storm.
I see lots of people mention that their 21-22 trucks are better equipped than 23s.
Meh.
I don't care that I won't have a cup holder light. Heated steering wheel? Can't miss what you've never had.
Bed camera delete kinds sucks but not enough to kill the deal.
We all make our choices at particular moments in time. What and for how much vs. need.
What a 23 buyer knows that the earlier buyers didn't? That Max Tow, especially on a PB, is an expensive option, that is mostly un-needed and has a built in problem. Thats worth several grand right there.
That those that bet on the come re Blue Cruise, may be underwhelmed. Another expensive option avoided.
My only actual gripe if you will, so far, is the inability to keep 18" wheels, on the 502a. I'd have liked the dynamic headlights but didn't want to give up the payload.
Well, one more, it should be much easier to have a decent idea of payload, without having to do so much independent research.
Once you've been through it, it isn't that bad but if you didn't know about the E-Source Book and Builder's Guide, which I didn't, until hitting the forums, its a total crap shoot and the several salespeople I talked to weren't ANY help, ranging from having no idea, to outright lying. It shouldn't be that way and one can only assume it is to unnecessarily push people toward Super Duties.
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