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You KNOW how I feel about your setup.
You have that data-gene! I love it :)
This setup would be great for you since you run a few devices. You could monitor all the truck's thangs; SOC, Charging %, etc all on cool arm mounts. :)
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True, if I ever need a second device or more.
So far I've been able to cram it all onto a single screen, so I am getting away with just the Pro-Clip. Strategically placed in line-of-sight and barely not blocking that iris scanning witch!

She still won't let me rest with a pimp-lean to the left, but we all know how to do that to the right anyway. 😜

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True, if I ever need a second device or more.
So far I've been able to cram it all onto a single screen, so I am getting away with just the Pro-Clip. Strategically placed in line-of-sight and barely not blocking that iris scanning witch!

She still won't let me rest with a pimp-lean to the left, but we all know how to do that to the right anyway. 😜

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I haven't felt the need for a phone holder yet. Hell, I was using paper maps, just last yr. so, late adopter applies but I do appreciate the tip of the Pro Clip. Went to their website, watched a vid for the new F150s, seems like a good choice, should I decide to need such a thing.
 

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This is feature I'm very interested in. I mean, you have it now but have you explored other ways to get that?

From what I understand, Ford's Nav will route for trailer height, if not other inputs.

Not that I can name them right now but there are other apps that do as well.

I have heard that Google maps may but also, that it will send you on inappropriate roads too. Dirt tracks, that go nowhere and should not have a TT on them.

I wish I'd made notes but I recently heard of one that not only watched for height conflicts but length (too tight turns) and even bridge capacities.

I want all those goodies but without the extra screen.
Yes, Ford's Sync NAV does. Even when you no longer have a free trial as soon as you enter your trailer dimensions for BLIS, the truck will beep at you EVERY TIME AN OVERPASS IS UPCOMING. And you can't disable trailer routing unless you resubscribe.. :mad:

Sorry, you hit a sore spot, lol
 

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True, if I ever need a second device or more.
So far I've been able to cram it all onto a single screen, so I am getting away with just the Pro-Clip. Strategically placed in line-of-sight and barely not blocking that iris scanning witch!

She still won't let me rest with a pimp-lean to the left, but we all know how to do that to the right anyway. 😜

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@Snakebitten - Which app are you using?

FWIW I also use the (wired) ProClips Mounts, secretly I love 'em...theyre pricey but worth it!
 
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I haven't felt the need for a phone holder yet. Hell, I was using paper maps, just last yr. so, late adopter applies but I do appreciate the tip of the Pro Clip. Went to their website, watched a vid for the new F150s, seems like a good choice, should I decide to need such a thing.
the think I LOVE about the ProClips....theres no cable to screw with..... its a permanent set up....just drop the phone in the carrier and youre done...connected / ready to go (and no unsightly wires laying all over the damn place)!

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@bushpilot

App is OBDLink with the Ford/Lincoln/Mercury pid library addition.

My favorite thing about the Pro-Clip was I didn't have to even mar a surface or use any fasteners.
And of course the location choice. I see you chose the same. :)
 

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App is OBDLink with the Ford/Lincoln/Mercury pid library addition.

thanks!

Ive got the app (use it on my diesel, ill give it a whirl w/ the F-150).
But discovered I have to order yet another OBDLink MX device (the one I have isnt supported on iOS)...amazon is delivering the MX+ overnight (yippee? ;)

@Snakebitten -

Where can I find the F/L/M PID library?
 

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If you purchase the OBDLink MX+ adapter, the "+" includes the purchase of 1 brand/vehicle add-on to the app.

Basically you pre-paid for one add on. The add on is fetched from inside the app itself. You'll find it. Kinda like an In-app purchase, except your adapter's serial number qualifies for the first one free.

As for having to purchase yet another OBD hardware device? You'll get no sympathy from me! 🤣
They take up a full drawer in the roll around toolbox now.
 
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Finally got around to mounting the booster yesterday since we keep our TT in storage. Tapped off the 12v disconnect in the belly bay, but also put in blade style quick connects as well for when at sites. Plan to source a 3 pole wago for the negative, but used a butt connector for now. I'd like to swap the quick connects out for a toggle switch at some point in the future. Still need to clean up the wires to look cleaner when time permits.

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Finally got ahold of my Truck Safety buddy. The only thing he mentioned was Garmin.

To each his own but I don't want to pay for it, or have the extra monitor, so I dug around a little and found 2 alternates, that include trailer speccs and are highly regarded.

RV trip Wizard and Truck Map, both allow you to enter the trailer speccs and keep you from weight, height and length conflicts.

Trip Wizard requires an annual subscription but is way more than just a map app.

Truck Map is free.

A web search, showed others as well but these 2 came with recommendations I trust. (fellow rvers)
 
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Finally got ahold of my Truck Safety buddy. The only thing he mentioned was Garmin.

To each his own but I don't want to pay for it, or have the extra monitor, so I dug around a little and found 2 alternates, that include trailer speccs and are highly regarded.

RV trip Wizard and Truck Map, both allow you to enter the trailer speccs and keep you from weight, height and length conflicts.

Trip Wizard requires an annual subscription but is way more than just a map app.

Truck Map is free.

A web search, showed others as well but these 2 came with recommendations I trust. (fellow rvers)
A lot of folks in the RV world like Trip Wizard. And some use it for planning in conjunction with a dedicated GPS.
 

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The furrion was preinstalled on the trailer and it also had the side marker cameras, but you have to toggle the view on the monitor and that is a huge distraction, so I almost never use them.
I'm not sure if this is true on all Furrion models but on the newer versions, IF the side marker light you attach the side marker camera to, is wired to the turn signal, the monitor will automatically, show that view in full screen, while the turn signal is on. No toggling.

Compared to the wiring you've already done on the truck, it seems like it'd be a cake walk, to bring a signal wire to those locations.

There also seems to be multiple view configurations, of where and what size normal views are, in the multi view screen. I've seen some that would be acceptable and others, that wouldn't. be but that might depend on which monitor one chooses.

Caveat: As yet, I have neither truck, nor trailer, nor camera system in hand. This is all from either Furrion, or various several installation vids. So, NOT first hand info but I'm confident enough in it, that I purposely did not, order tow mirrors on my new truck.
 

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Just recently got some dealer level info on Furrion. Thought I'd pass it on. FWIW I liked the Furrion, because of the sleekness of their monitor. The others, seem so clunky.

Trailer dealer said pre covid, they handled it and thought it was the best but since, have had an outsized problem with water in the cameras. His words "40, of 50 sold, came back."

They handle a different manufacturer now and I looked it over but there were several things I didn't care for.

I've heard good things about Haloview but didn't like their monitors but they have a new version.

Still a bit clunky but sleeker than the previous versions and I really like the screen layout.

The rear view, is full width of the top half, with the side views, sharing the bottom half.

https://www.haloview.com/byte-tango-7-plus.html
 

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After 18 months of windshield mounted accessories when towing along with cables hanging all over the dash, decided to take the deep dive into a ball mount system.

Before:

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Now:

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This is with the devices removed and the wires tucked under the mount. There are two USBs and two 12v quick connectors.

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Install:

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Grommets for wire pass through.

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12v fuse box and 12v to dual usb box:

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Fuse tap off passenger panel #2 which is hot only when key is present and vehicle is in ACC or ON.

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Boxes tucked up and mounted behind glove box with outdoor high heat rated Velcro:

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Glove box closes with no clearance issues.

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Using the work surface as a work surface.

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Special thanks to @LostBoy for PM support and his awesome audio thread: https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/kicker-amp-morel-speakers-audio-upgrade.17364/

Special thanks to @AdamC & @AAWhyte in this thread for how to get 12v switched power: https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...k-up-switched-12v-for-dash-accessories.10015/

Other inspirational threads:
https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/ham-gmrs-install.6973/post-258402 from @Polish Prince
https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...-for-adding-usb-hub-to-upper-dash-tray.14562/ from @PBRscrew
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1580745-another-cellphone-mount-option.html

Wiring diagram used:

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Dash System$ 409.49
Dash Mount$ 95.00https://builtrightind.com/products/dash-mount-ford-f-150-raptor-2021?variant=42118615105750
Trim removal kit$ 13.99https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L8GHB7...colid=2JC33DK80B9RH&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1
20mm ball (2)$ 19.99https://www.bulletpointmountingsolu..._psq=ball&_ss=e&_v=1.0&variant=32037952815219
20mm ball (1)$ 10.99https://www.bulletpointmountingsolu..._psq=ball&_ss=e&_v=1.0&variant=32037952749683
Garmin RV890 Parts
4.9" mini arm 20mm-1inch$ 32.00https://www.67d.com/products/arm-builder-pro-series-arms-20mm-1-ball-sizes?variant=43943284932862
Furrion Parts
22.4mm-20mm Adapter$ 15.99https://www.tackform.com/products/a...-furrion-aluminum?_pos=2&_sid=eac9a2a28&_ss=r
6.5" small arm 20mm-20mm$ 34.00https://www.67d.com/products/arm-builder-pro-series-arms?variant=43943283065086
Tireminder TPMS Parts
Four prong tpms ball$ 12.99https://www.tackform.com/products/20mm-ball-for-tpms-and-monitor?_pos=1&_sid=c5b5c9ea5&_ss=r
6.5" small arm 20mm-20mm$ 34.00https://www.67d.com/products/arm-builder-pro-series-arms?variant=43943283065086
Wiring items
12v to dual USB$ 12.99https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BCP6WPBD?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
(2) USB 6' extensions$ 11.49https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CFL6ARO?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
Add a fuse$ 9.89https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083V5DYT6?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
Rubber Grommet kit$ 11.29https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GFCT2RL?th=1
Furrion Plug Pigtail$ 8.99https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081TYG48P?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Quick Disconnect x2$ 30.00https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LS2LYX...colid=2JC33DK80B9RH&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1
3A fuses$ 5.97https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004AH4MWG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Wire Connectors$ 14.99https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BTXXFJR2?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
Heat Shrink kit$ 13.99https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089D82FLG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
12v fuse box$ 13.99https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XWQHMZJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
1' Right Angle Micro USB$ 6.95https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YKX6WC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

EDIT/NOTES:

a. I did have to trim the four prong ball adapter due to Tireminder not using industry standard prongs. Theirs are thinner. I got a precision needle file set from harbor freight to thin the prongs on the Tackform mount.

b. To reach the inner mount screws for the Builtright dash mount, I had to use a ball end hex key due to the angle needed to reach. Didn't have any, so grabbed a set from harbor freight as well.

c. Here are close ups of the patch cables. On the left is the Garmin to 12v disconnect. For this one, I cut the cable that goes to the dock. The Garmin can also be powered by a traditional USB. You can see in the first picture the USB plugged into the unit. But by using this cable, it is hidden in the second pic going to the dock. I made a disconnect with the Furrion plug too. I was able to source the correct 3.5mm x 1.35mm right angle plug, so I didn't have to cut the cable that came with it. With this system, any type of 12v or USB device type changes means the dash is ready and don't have to rerun home run wires through the dash if a new device requires a different 12v or USB plug type. And lastly, a 1 foot right angle USB cable for the TPMS. In the pics above, I was test fitting a regular USB, and now this one is perfectly sized and cleaner looking.

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