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You won't break anything, but I think you need both 8's?

You'll know because you can start the truck and the infrared will not be running. Your smartphone cam can see the infrared.
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You're probably right: do both. I would prefer to have a better understanding of what I'm changing.
 

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It's a limited number of possibilities, with zero risk, and verifiable without leaving the driveway. 😁

It could be way worse!
Think of all the testing it took for the new published feature today. (warning tag removed from rear camera)

You and me have it so easy.
 

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I'm trying to understand this @Jesse-Infotainment .
My as-built is 706-01-01 8A50 A015 AE4C.
My current configuration is 706-01-01 8A50 A019 AE4C. I have anti-glare active so the 4th position, block 2 is 9, whereas originally it was 5. This has nothing to do with the witch/nanny cam.

The 4th position, 1st block: 0 is ModuleFeatureCfg_TJA (MFCTJA) disabled, and 8 is ModuleFeatureCfg_TJA (MFCTJA) enabled. What is MFCTJA exactly? Must this be changed to disable the witch/nanny cam?

The 1st position, 3rd block: A is ModuleFeatureCfg_HwyAssist (MFCHA) enabled, and 8 is ModuleFeatureCfg_HwyAssist (MFCHA) disabled. What is MFCHA exactly? Must this be changed to disable the witch/nanny cam?

HA-HwyAssist (and I'm just guessing here) seems like it is the witch/nanny cam.
TJA. I haven't a clue what this is. I'm wondering if this is just a difference between mine and Snakebitten's trucks and has nothing to do with the witch/nanny cam? Again, I'm just guessing here.

Do I need to change both the HA and TJA or just one or the other? If just one or the other, which one? Based on Snakebitten's witch/nanny cam ON and his witch/nanny cam OFF configurations both the 1st and 3rd blocks need to be changed. xxx8-xxxx-8xxx is OFF and xxx0-xxxx-Axxx is off.
The only thing I would disable first to try is Highway Assist, as that is the main enabler for BC and the nanny cams. As soon as I try to enable it in my truck which has everything but the nanny cams, it freaks out and nothing wants to work.

Leave Traffic Jam Assist enabled, not sure how yours wasn't enabled from the get go. It is nice as I believe it is part of the stop and go traffic feature, which is nice to have.
 

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Traffic Jam Assist
Ahh, Traffic Jam Assist. I understand the words, but I've no idea what this is. But I agree that something like this seems like it should be enabled. Well, I did some Googling. I found this interesting information. While TJA isn't currently enabled on my truck, I have driven my truck in stop and go interstate traffic with BlueCruise on and it did just fine. I don't quite understand what TJA brings to the table. Heck, I found a Ford pre-BlueCruise video about TJA and it shows the driver with coffee in one hand and a donut in the other!

Tomorrow I'm going to disable Highway Assist and check for the infrared business with my cell phone. I'll also take a test drive. Hopefully the result will be the witch/nanny cam being turned off.

Secondly, I'll then activate Traffic Jam Assist and do another test drive. I'll try to find some local traffic and try to see any differences. Maybe if you don't have BlueCruise, then you should have Traffic Jam Assist enabled?

EDIT: While I was in interstate stop and go traffic the Auto-Resume feature of ACC did work. Auto-Resume "Displays when on a limited access highway after following a vehicle to a complete stop. In this situation, the vehicle resumes following the lead vehicle without a button press or pressing the accelerator pedal. The system can remain in auto-resume state for approximately 30 seconds, after which it no longer automatically resumes." This seems like Traffic Jam Assist to me.

 
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There's also wrong-way alert which is supposed to notify you if you've some how managed to get on the wrong side of a divided highway. Mandatory EU stuff, haven't tried it here though. Not sure how one could test it....
 

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It's a new day..... The 2022 Raptors come standard with Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Traffic Jam Assist (TJA). I searched for a '22 Raptor for sale, nabbed its VIN, and checked its as-built info. Its IPMA 706-01-01 is xxx8 xxxx 8xxxx, whereas a '22 Platinum is xxx0 xxxx Axxx. I'm confident now that by duplicating the Raptor's IPMA I will disable Highway Assist 8xxx (the interior driver infrared camera, aka the witch, aka the nanny camera, and subsequently disable BlueCruise) yet leave Lane Centering unaffected. I will enable Traffic Jam Assist xxx8 just like the Raptor which does not have BlueCruise at all. I don't fully understand what TJA does. It seems to allow a longer hands-off time when using ACC at slower speeds in stop and go traffic. BlueCruise currently allows short hands-off time when it is in hands-on mode. Anyhow, I'll make these changes today and drive. Give things a good row. Record what you do with FORScan kids and you can always change things back to what they were.

Why? Why do this you may ask. I want to be able to do this more so than actually doing this at this time. I have 2+ years of complimentary BlueCruise left and I intend to use this. After this I have no intention of subscribing to BlueCruise. Non subscribers will still have BlueCruise, just without hands-free. You'll still have the nanny cam (Highway Assist) nagging you. I want to kill this yet retain lane centering's full functionality. Eventually I intend on installing Open Pilot (once it is officially supported) to return hands-free driving to my F150. Until the stars align one can always use the weighted steering wheel hack to achieve hands-free driving.
 
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I don't fully understand what TJA does.

Non subscribers will still have BlueCruise, just without hands-free. You'll still have the nanny cam (Highway Assist) nagging you. I want to kill this yet retain lane centering's full functionality. Eventually I intend on installing Open Pilot (once it is officially supported) to return hands-free driving to my F150. Until the stars align one can always use the weighted steering wheel hack to achieve hands-free driving.
Ya, neither do I, especially if trucks with it disabled already functioned like it was, but when I was going through and figuring how to retrofit ACC, it was enabled on all the factory VINs I was referencing, so it got enabled. Plus in a few other modules it needs enabled to make everything happy, so it got turned on.

Highway Assist will still be enabled, but no subscription, so can't use BC, but he nanny cams will be staring at you for free. Disable Highway Assist and that all goes away, pretty sure, fingers crossed. Same here on OP, I keep hovering over the add to cart, but until then, #ankleweightcrew4life
 

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I disabled BC for a while, had a GWM update that wouldn't post, reversed BC bit, but BC never came back. I believe I have to call ford and they'll send the okay signal on it. I ran the BC verification something or other in FDRS, it updated my maps DB in the process. Tried the activate BC prep thing as well. Now in the IPC it says "bc enabled" when using LC/CC. Not going to drive 25m out of the way to try interstate. Haven't checked if D.E.eye nanny is back.

Towards the top of the todo list is to grab a comma 3x as it's already superior to BC. I've already got well into 5 figures worth of stuff laying around here that needs attention first. Anyone got some leads on human cloning or temporal pausing, there's a handsome finders fee attached :ROFLMAO:
 

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OpenPilot with the Comma 3x, disables the infrared witch, allows you to drive hands free on almost all roads (not just limited access roads like BC), doesn't have an 80mph limit, doesn't require a subscription, allows lane changes (turn signal or turn signal plus wheel bump), doesn't time-out after a long stop with stop and go traffic. It also engages instantly when you press the ACC button (no waiting for it to lock in) and it doesn't disengage nearly as often as BC and ask you to take control. It is miles ahead of BC in capabilities. Most importantly, no need for an ankle weight attached to your steering wheel to be hands free.
 

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It's a new day..... The 2022 Raptors come standard with Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Traffic Jam Assist (TJA). I searched for a '22 Raptor for sale, nabbed its VIN, and checked its as-built info. Its IPMA 706-01-01 is xxx8 xxxx 8xxxx, whereas a '22 Platinum is xxx0 xxxx Axxx. I'm confident now that by duplicating the Raptor's IPMA I will disable Highway Assist 8xxx (the interior driver infrared camera, aka the witch, aka the nanny camera, and subsequently disable BlueCruise) yet leave Lane Centering unaffected. I will enable Traffic Jam Assist xxx8 just like the Raptor which does not have BlueCruise at all. I don't fully understand what TJA does. It seems to allow a longer hands-off time when using ACC at slower speeds in stop and go traffic. BlueCruise currently allows short hands-off time when it is in hands-on mode. Anyhow, I'll make these changes today and drive. Give things a good row. Record what you do with FORScan kids and you can always change things back to what they were.

Why? Why do this you may ask. I want to be able to do this more so than actually doing this at this time. I have 2+ years of complimentary BlueCruise left and I intend to use this. After this I have no intention of subscribing to BlueCruise. Non subscribers will still have BlueCruise, just without hands-free. You'll still have the nanny cam (Highway Assist) nagging you. I want to kill this yet retain lane centering's full functionality. Eventually I intend on installing Open Pilot (once it is officially supported) to return hands-free driving to my F150. Until the stars align one can always use the weighted steering wheel hack to achieve hands-free driving.
Boy your missing out on some spectacular piece of kit waiting for an official release. As is it blows away BC. I don't get the resistance. Just a name change is not going to make it any better. It's like waiting on target to change its name. Still going to be the same store.
Just out of curiosity what's stopping you from trying out Openpilot? You have 30days to try it and the guys are super cool with refunds.
 

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OpenPilot with the Comma 3x, disables the infrared witch, allows you to drive hands free on almost all roads (not just limited access roads like BC), doesn't have an 80mph limit, doesn't require a subscription, allows lane changes (turn signal or turn signal plus wheel bump), doesn't time-out after a long stop with stop and go traffic. It also engages instantly when you press the ACC button (no waiting for it to lock in) and it doesn't disengage nearly as often as BC and ask you to take control. It is miles ahead of BC in capabilities. Most importantly, no need for an ankle weight attached to your steering wheel to be hands free.
It's never disengaged fir me.. a couple naggs but thats when I was reaching behind my feet for a beer.
 

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That is my question. I truly doubt the basic premise which is 85% of those who have BC already optioned out will likely subscribe. But at the very least, those ppl are the ones who bought high end trims. You telling me that Ford is going to install all of the hardware on an XL that might cost $38k? I can guarantee you the return on subscription investment will be be less than 10% at that price point. Just doesn't make much sense to me. That said, Ford Authority is rarely wrong...
Those of us who have discovered Open Pilot / Comma3x will never pay their subscription fee for BlueCruise. I bought my truck because I wanted BlueCruise. Once I tried Open Pilot on the Comma3x I completely forgot about BlueCruise.
 

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Boy your missing out...
Actually I've already tried it out. I bought one for my Maverick with the intention of being able to move back and forth between the Maverick and the F150. I returned it with no issue.

At the time at least neither vehicle was supported (meaning plug and play). The website said the Maverick was, but as it turns out the hybrid model isn't. I'm not completely tech illiterate, but I'm not savvy enough to dive into the Comma's programming and the hot mess of Discord. Nor was I comfortable with gambling with $1500.

I believe others have got the Comma to work in both vehicles, but I have no clue how they did it. I'll just look into it again in the future to see if it is plug and play for my applications. If so, I'll purchase again.

The website today still looks the same. No compatibility with the F150. I thought I had a compatible Maverick. The listing doesn't clarify if it works with the hybrid. It did not awhile back.
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