BlueCruise not available until second half 2022 - says Ford customer service

[gtotco]

Let me know if you ever drive through Colorado so I can warn my family and friends to stay off the road.

This was my thought as well as a fellow Coloradan…

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[RedTXV]

Just FYI this is a good way to die. To each their own but this has killed multiple Tesla drivers with a system that is arguably more advanced than what is in your truck.

Let me know if you ever drive through Colorado so I can warn my family and friends to stay off the road.

While I agree it's not the safest way to navigate, it still makes you keep your eyes on the road and paying attention. Which is lot better than having your eyes on your phone like so many do these days.

 

[gtotco]

While I agree it's not the safest way to navigate, it still makes you keep your eyes on the road and paying attention. Which is lot better than having your eyes on your phone like so many do these days.

While I agree it's not the safest way to navigate, it still makes you keep your eyes on the road and paying attention. Which is lot better than having your eyes on your phone like so many do these days.

It’s more just that it is not how the system is designed to work. The difference between BlueCruise and the regular ADAS isn’t just a camera - BlueCruise uses high definition LIDAR mapped roads and GPS among other higher level functions to do what it does - basically it uses a lot more info and higher computation than what the standard ADAS does.

I think people mistakenly think BlueCruise is just the same thing as the regular ADAS with some eye tracking added in. It is not. They are two different systems.

I mean ultimately it’s similar to drunk driving - it’s a risky behavior that many people go decades without having a major incident doing it. Most people just don’t typically brag about driving drunk on forums.

 

[xtraman122]

It’s more just that it is not how the system is designed to work. The difference between BlueCruise and the regular ADAS isn’t just a camera - BlueCruise uses high definition LIDAR mapped roads and GPS among other higher level functions to do what it does - basically it uses a lot more info and higher computation than what the standard ADAS does.

I think people mistakenly think BlueCruise is just the same thing as the regular ADAS with some eye tracking added in. It is not. They are two different systems.

I mean ultimately it’s similar to drunk driving - it’s a risky behavior that many people go decades without having a major incident doing it. Most people just don’t typically brag about driving drunk on forums.

Someone using the weight because the way the attentive detection system works on the wheel is very annoying to deal with but still paying attention to the road is no less safe than anyone else. Some idiot using it so they can watch porn on their phone while flying down the highway is an entirely different story. Yes, lots of people have been irresponsible and stupid doing this (Someone on this very forum admitted to it), but don’t assume everyone who does it is being some irresponsible driver putting others at risk with what they’re doing.

 

[gtotco]

Someone using the weight because the way the attentive detection system works on the wheel is very annoying to deal with but still paying attention to the road is no less safe than anyone else. Some idiot using it so they can watch porn on their phone while flying down the highway is an entirely different story. Yes, lots of people have been irresponsible and stupid doing this (Someone on this very forum admitted to it), but don’t assume everyone who does it is being some irresponsible driver putting others at risk with what they’re doing.

It isn’t how the system is designed or it would work that way. It isn’t about paying attention - it’s about having your hands on the wheel. There is a reason all automakers make this a requirement - because the car isn’t capable of working without it.

BlueCruise is NOT the same system. It works differently please actually read what was written above.
Edit: also not trying to blame user here. I get that it is confusing and Ford and other automakers have been awful at explaining their ADAS systems. I get that you don’t understand this because automakers haven’t explained it. I’m just trying to help out here by explaining it is a risky behavior - paying attention or not.

 

[newdeal99]

Let me know if you ever drive through Colorado so I can warn my family and friends to stay off the road.

Blue cruise won't be any safer

 

[newdeal99]

Can you show some pics and/or video of what you are doing with a wrist weight? Thanks

I just jam it into the bottom right hole in the steering wheel. It says in there and prevents it beeping at you to hold the wheel.

 

[newdeal99]

Just FYI this is a good way to die. To each their own but this has killed multiple Tesla drivers with a system that is arguably more advanced than what is in your truck.

Not really, its not like I am falling asleep or watching TV. I watch the road exactly as I would while using blue cruise (if my truck got the update which it didn't)

 

[newdeal99]

Still haunted by that story about the guy who’s Model 3 went under the trailer of an 18 wheeler.

Tesla claimed the driver wasn’t paying attention, autopilot or lane keep obviously wasn’t either.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/0...active-during-deadly-march-tesla-crash/?amp=1

blue cruise doesn't have auto lane changing like Tesla does

 

[gtotco]

Not really, its not like I am falling asleep or watching TV. I watch the road exactly as I would while using blue cruise (if my truck got the update which it didn't)

Watching the road doesn't matter. The lane centering system you are using is designed to assist with steering, while BlueCruise is designed to steer the vehicle. These are two different operations. Defeating the assist is akin to putting a brick on the accelerator and covering the brake with your foot because the cruise control isn't working.

Again, I get it, Ford (and other automakers) have not communicated this well - led by Tesla they have repeatedly insinuated that these are "autonomous" or "semi-autonomous" features while legally recognizing they are driver assist features. There is a reason they take this legal approach - they know the limits of the systems they are deploying. You are putting more trust in your truck than Ford is, which given how badly they have fucked up this rollout should be concerning to you.

 

[JohnMcClane]

blue cruise doesn't have auto lane changing like Tesla does

Not sure what that has to do with the article I posted. If you look at the article I posted, I don't think auto lane change does anything to prevent what happened, needed braking and evasive maneuvers to prevent what happened.

Tesla used to not have auto lane change either.

Blue Cruise will get it at some point.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a37231891/ford-bluecruise-details/

" Another over-the-air update—Ford calls them Power-Ups—that includes an automated lane-change feature will roll out at some point in the near future. For now, drivers will have to signal and initiate the lane change themselves. "

 

[xtraman122]

Watching the road doesn't matter. The lane centering system you are using is designed to assist with steering, while BlueCruise is designed to steer the vehicle. These are two different operations. Defeating the assist is akin to putting a brick on the accelerator and covering the brake with your foot because the cruise control isn't working.

Again, I get it, Ford (and other automakers) have not communicated this well - led by Tesla they have repeatedly insinuated that these are "autonomous" or "semi-autonomous" features while legally recognizing they are driver assist features. There is a reason they take this legal approach - they know the limits of the systems they are deploying. You are putting more trust in your truck than Ford is, which given how badly they have fucked up this rollout should be concerning to you.

There’s no difference in current BlueCruise’s ability to stay in a lane versus Co-Pilot Assist unfortunately. They both are pretty bad at it as has been seen in reviews. BlueCruise constantly asks for you to take back over.

 

[gtotco]

There’s no difference in current BlueCruise’s ability to stay in a lane versus Co-Pilot Assist unfortunately. They both are pretty bad at it as has been seen in reviews. BlueCruise constantly asks for you to take back over.

I mean as someone who doesn't yet have BlueCruise I can't argue with the fact that it might not be good either. Even if it isn't perceptible it is still more advanced under the hood than what you are getting without it. In theory it should be able to ask you to take over earlier than it would with standard lane keeping assist.

I don't doubt that it isn't good either, but that doesn't make the standard assist any better. Again, there is a reason Ford is willing to take on more legal liability with BlueCruise than they would with the standard software.

 

[JohnMcClane]

Simple analogy would be.

Co-Pilot Assist is like one of those old regular cell phones, ya know, call and maybe text, that’s what you get, may get a dark mode or some sweet new ringtones, but hardware is going to prevent it from being able to do much more than that.

Blue Cruise is meant to be a smart phone, right now it doesn’t do much more than call and text, but it will be able to do much more after some updates. Yet to be determined how it will perform, iPhone, Android, or… Windows Phone.

 

[PappyG]

Ummm....are you sure we're talking about totally hands-free cruise control? Cause I have a '21 F-150 PB, and a '21 Mach-E, and neither of them have Blue Cruise enabled but both have the prep packages. I have Intelligent Cruise and get reminded to keep my hands on the wheel every 15 seconds...even when my hands are on the wheel.

And Blue Cruise is supposedly in limited beta...are you a beta tester?

Mike

I am not aware if I am officially a Beta tester. All I can confirm is that Blue Cruise was available from day one. And yes it is hands free. I can verify it is working on Florida I75, I275, I4 and the Polk Parkway.

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