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2021 F150 5.0L Tuned - Whipple Supercharged - Dyno Pulls
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GABAR
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A Ford dealer will honor the 3/36K warranty on a non modified vehicle. The Whipple is not an OEM powertrain item so it would make sense that Ford would not honor or cover the OEM powertrain if a person has the Whipple installed because the engine was not engineered from the factory for this supercharger.
It’s great that Whipple offers a warranty but if an owner does have a problem after installation, a Ford dealer will tell the owner to contact Whipple for repair reimbursement of said cost.
With that being said, it would be best to have the Whipple installed by a selling dealer.
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Unless there’s some very small and fine legal print in the Whipple paperwork just like the OEM 3/36K warranty, the Whipple warranty should cover the entire power train and not just the supercharger itself and it’s related components.
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Yeah except.. Ford has to prove the whipple caused a powertrain failure. If they can't. They have to honor it.
Thanks moss Magnuson act.
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Lol……..Any and every dealer will laugh at an owner if they mention this act.
The bottom line is that the HP and TQ has been exceeded far beyond what the powertrain was designed for from the factory for longevity and a trouble free life.
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It will last 3 years or 36k miles with their tune. I’ve seen multiple people in real life purchase these kits for gt500s and such, and the kits tunes are like an OEM tune, just with a huge blower.
That blower can make 700+ on that engine with a little more custom tuning and cool air. Then it would severely reduce the engine’s life.
If a person doesn’t run the crap out of it all the time, it would last as long as any other OEM engine.
That blower can make 700+ on that engine with a little more custom tuning and cool air. Then it would severely reduce the engine’s life.
If a person doesn’t run the crap out of it all the time, it would last as long as any other OEM engine.
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Maybe.
Things like this are very dependent on the driver.
Me: I would probably crack something before 36k miles.
My Dad: His whole drivetrain would go 125k miles with no issue.
Just depends on how you drive it. If you keep your foot out of it, everything is going to wear like any other f-150 5.0 would.
It’s those 4 x 4 boosted launches that grind everything to bits. But realistically, the dyno shows he is still sort of within spec, because aren’t these transmissions good for 600 FT/LB? Which is a 24 hour test at those power levels. It would appear that a 5.0 F-150 putting 520RWTQ down is about 598 at the flywheel, so I believe whipple and Ford have a conservative tune to go with that warranty. Ford and Whipple have been doing this since 2004 with the terminator and so on up to present, so they know how to keep them together.
You have to remember, this transmission is already mated to the PB which has 575TQ, with 150-200 of it being instant electric TQ. Then there is the power stroke too.
The Stock PB is almost the same TQ as the Blown 5.0 making 520TQ at the rear wheels. With transmissions, torque converters, and clutches the ratings are all about TQ.
Ford and GM made a tranny that should stand up to heavy towing, so if someone utilizes that same amount of torque through the gearbox at wide open throttle, then it really just comes down to the Time @ WOT causing excessive wear on the transmission.
If the 5.0 transmission shifts gears one quarter mile at a time @ WOT vs. PB Towing 10,000 lbs through the Ike Gauntlet at 75MPH @ WOT for 50 minutes, which one is more damaging to the transmission?
They both have similar TQ levels, but a PB towing heavy is likely going to be WOT for extended timeframes, especially towing in the mountains.
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I didn’t think to say that the 10 speed transmission is going to keep any possible engine setup in the power/TQ range the entire time. So whether the tranny is on the PB or Boosted 5.0, the TQ is similar on both trucks, so it’s all going to depend on the driver.
Based on the extremely impressive burnouts I’ve seen the truck do with a partial tune…
Based on the extremely impressive burnouts I’ve seen the truck do with a partial tune…
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How's it been the last few weeks? Any updates on power or numbers? I'm excited to try this
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The PB's trans is unique to it. As to how unique, not sure. The bell and TC are most certainly different. The PB also puts out its peak torque around 3krpm, but seems to be artificially limited by the torque sensor. The 10spd to take a look at is in the lincoln aviator GTs which put out the highest power down low outside of those found in the 250s. Are there any sources out there that have really take a deep dive into the 10 speeds? Perhaps the new 23 250s w/ the high-output diesels might have some cost-effective parts to swap in?
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