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  1. Wave 4 invitation - did you get one??

    The disappointment continues. I reserved on 5/19 at 9:33 EST. No email. No “Order Now” on ford.com. WA Wa wa. Congrats to those who have ordered.
  2. Best Bed Liner and Cover

    Thanks. How much weight does it support on top?
  3. ? 3rd Wave (2/3/22) Lightning Ordering Now Open!

    Congrats to those who made it under the wire this wave. So painful! Ordered at 9:42 EST 5/19 and still waiting.?
  4. Best Bed Liner and Cover

    On my last truck, I had the LineX spray in liner and I was quite happy. I also had a Lear cover and was disapointed. Nothing about the cover, but that it was a PITA to remove and I needed it off as much as I needed it on. So in doing research in anticipation of my new lightning what are...
  5. Just How In Demand ARE EV Trucks

    Well, I have been driving my Model S since '19, and I will say to each their own. I agree on the maintenance end and not having to pump gas. Those are great conveniences. I also like never having to clean my garage floor. Conversely, every time I even think of planning a trip, I severely...
  6. Just How In Demand ARE EV Trucks

    OK, rub that in! However, let's look at wind energy production:
  7. Just How In Demand ARE EV Trucks

    Based on what? Recent history does not seem to support that conclusion. You very well may be right, but building plants takes years and the grid is already outdated and overstressed. With the current environment, hydroelectric production in the west may be on a decline.
  8. Just How In Demand ARE EV Trucks

    Why? Do you care about the condition of the propane tank you get? You assume that it is tested every so often to ensure it's safe. Why would you feel different about batteries? As they approach their end of life, they'd get recycled. Also, so you get a 'bad' battery which has only 75%-90%...
  9. Just How In Demand ARE EV Trucks

    I'm going to throw a lit match into some gasoline here: I think the demand for these BEV trucks is way overestimated. My guess is that a majority of folks who have placed deposits or have reservations for a EV truck (Rivian R1T/R1S, Tesla Cybertruck, F150 Lightning, Hummer or Silverado EV)...
  10. ? Lightning Ordering WAVE 2 Emails Are Out!

    Sticking with the numbers. If Ford builds 15k +/- Lightnings in '22 and there were only 15k-20k reservations placed on the first day, it would appear that generally the above conclusion is correct. As evidenced by the number of folks that have said they want a Pro model that is already sold...
  11. ? Lightning Ordering WAVE 2 Emails Are Out!

    I think that dealers may be misinformed about their 2022 allocations, and I think that we are too worried about it. I am concluding that based upon; a) the number of vehicles I expect Ford to build in 2022 (15k-20k), b) the number of people who reserved the same day (about 20k), comments...
  12. ? Lightning Ordering WAVE 2 Emails Are Out!

    It will soon enough! Progressive lawmakers see buyers of EVs as wealthy, er, great targets for taxes! It's not the oil, but the taxes they love. Oil producing states just get to tax the oil producers. Most states want to incentivize EV's but don't want to lose the highway (gas) tax...
  13. ? Lightning Ordering WAVE 2 Emails Are Out!

    I'm in the disappointed club. I ordered on 5/19 at 9:43 EST and was #8 at my dealer. I have no idea how many orders, but since they are a large volume Dallas dealer, and TX is the #2 or 3 state for buying EVs behind CA, one would think they should get a good share of allocations. They did say...
  14. Lightning WAVE 2 Emails Coming 1/19 For Ordering on 1/20 – Per Ford Customer Service

    Looks like there is a ton of overthinking this. We are trying to solve for a number when most of the factors we don’t know: allocations per dealer, number to be built in MY 22, prioritization of certain states, how many per wave, what Ford is thinking, etc. I’m supposedly #6 at my dealer, and...
  15. Lightning Battery Design Question

    Does anyone know what type of battery design and construction Ford is using?
  16. Wave 1 Lightning invitation email thread [Update: Emails AFTER 5PM ET]

    I couldn't agree more. The lack of tactile buttons that never move, that you can reach and feel w/out looking are important to me as well. My comments were only intended to address the comparative aerodynamics. Now, if only Ford made an EV F150 that goes 400 miles!
  17. Wave 1 Lightning invitation email thread [Update: Emails AFTER 5PM ET]

    You do realize that Ford is one of the two big investors in Rivian and they used to have an EV JV with them. From this, I would guess that a lot of the EV technology is the same or at least has the same roots. As for aerodynamics, Rivian, being a ground up design, was designed to be as...
  18. Wave 1 Lightning invitation email thread [Update: Emails AFTER 5PM ET]

    Congrats! You seem to have had phenomenal vehicles. I don't want to be snarky and say that BMW has created a vehicle that defies the laws of Physics, but unless your drive home is downhill all the way, I would assume that the range calculating software is not perfect and fails to accurately...
  19. Wave 1 Lightning invitation email thread [Update: Emails AFTER 5PM ET]

    Yeah, Yeah. Or if you're too heavy to take-off. I knew I would get called out on it..., but it is a saying, so don't blame the messenger. :p
  20. Wave 1 Lightning invitation email thread [Update: Emails AFTER 5PM ET]

    Here are some things I think I've figured out. 1) Each dealer got one and only one allocation from the first wave. 2) Ford did this to give every dealership a chance to work through the kinks and get experience without a crush of pushy buyers (us! ;)) flooding them with calls and visits...


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