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  1. No more Lightning ordering waves for MY2022 !

    SOL at #2 on my dealers list. OK, I could still get a 2023 but now there's this diminishing tax credit thing and who knows how much they will jack up MSRPs.
  2. Wave 5 Invites???

    On another forum a California guy got an invite.
  3. Watch the F-150 Lightning Extreme Cold Weather Testing in Alaska

    In real winter weather, a range drop of 40% vs. summer is to be expected. I've had 2 EVs and that is what they do.
  4. 400 mile range from the Lightning?

    On a warm day with the HVAC off, empty except for driver, and don't go over 50 mph, you could get 400 miles I think.
  5. Transition to EV, why Ford/GM still need dealers to sell the trucks?

    What most OEMS are comfortable doing is manufacturing and wholesaling. Retail, well that's complicated considering about 2% of customers have the product and financial acumen to make direct to customer sales feasible. Like the 2% that buys things like electric vehicles.
  6. Dealers with NO MY22 Lightning allocations?

    Saw a Guesstimation that a couple of hundred trucks will be allocated to Michigan and there's 137 dealers. I'm #2 at my dealer and #1 got a 1st wave invite. Looking iffy for me to get one.
  7. Ford is Reengineering Mach-E in Real Time and the F-150 Lightning Will Benefit

    Agile - "Minimum Viable Product" AKA full of bugs we'll fix if the customer complains.
  8. Ford is Reengineering Mach-E in Real Time and the F-150 Lightning Will Benefit

    Let's say Ford wanted to get a product out on the market without waiting for years while the engineering was perfected and the assembly procedures specialized around it. Hoses and clamps on an EV aren't stressed, the hottest loop is the cabin heat and it's probably 160F vs over 200F on an ICE...
  9. Wave 3

    Read carefully. We are waiting for our invite from Ford to order. Lariat ER. Hagen Ford, Bay City MI
  10. DOE - eGallon cost comparisons by State & USA

    In Michigan we have a $130 EV surcharge on registration fees. Some day in the future, probably we end up with a fee based on miles driven per year.
  11. Wave 3

    All I know is I am next up at my dealer. One wave 1 invite, none in wave 2. Salesman says they still have no info on how many allocations they will get this year, doubts any dealer actually knows for sure at this point.
  12. Wave 3 Feb 3rd ~ XLT SR

    Fixed it for you. Yes, I have forgotten to plug in for an overnight charging session.
  13. Wave 3 Feb 3rd ~ XLT SR

    As an owner of a 238 mile EPA EV, it's extended range or nothing. YMMV.
  14. Dealer Allocation

    Last night, Tim Bartz of Long McArthur Ford in Salina KS, said they were allocated two, yes two, Lightnings for this year. I put in an inquiry with my dealer. I know I am high on the priority list but I might not be high enough.
  15. DOE - eGallon cost comparisons by State & USA

    To simplify, a Lightning will go about 2 miles on a kwh and my electric (with fees and taxes) is 16 cents per kwh so 8 cents/mile. Equivalent for current regular gas prices would be 40 mpg.
  16. Reserved within first 15 minutes, but dealer just told me I won't get a Lightning until 2023.

    What I heard (and you have to listen multiple times since Elon is somewhat incoherent, LOL) is that they are still figuring out how to build it at an affordable price. Which means initial costing came out ridiculously expensive. Maybe it's not so easy to fold 1/8" stainless sheet like origami.
  17. When will Wave 1 or 2 be Scheduled for Production?

    Wouldn't assume production scheduling is related to wave #, or when you order. What you order, definitely.


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