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  1. List: F-150 Lightning dealers that do / don't apply ADM (price markup)

    The issue is what happens between when you place the order and when you sign the paperwork. If you order only online without dealer signing the buyer's order which includes all the fees, dealer has not committed to anything except may be just the ADM (if that). If you do it online and go to...
  2. List: F-150 Lightning dealers that do / don't apply ADM (price markup)

    At least not until your vehicle arrives at the dealer. What is Ford going to do about the sudden increase in doc fees to $15K or other creative ridiculous fees the dealer may come up with to help you leave your Lightning on their lot? Ford has not given any guarantees that the price you see...
  3. List: F-150 Lightning dealers that do / don't apply ADM (price markup)

    Maryland: Apple Ford in Colombia told me ADM + $10K a while back. Very uninformed and unprofessional GM and staff. I switched to Bob Bell Ford ADM + $500 (Doc Fees) - They are not transparent with information and not always responsive with calls and emails. Sadly more responsive than...
  4. Lightning WAVE 2 Emails Coming 1/19 For Ordering on 1/20 – Per Ford Customer Service

    My dealer was very communicative and responsive when I switched to them. Now they do not respond. I called Ford to see what is involved in transfering to a new one. They said allocation will remain the same with dealers. Basically even if I cancel before converting to order, the dealer...
  5. Wave 1 Lightning invitation email thread [Update: Emails AFTER 5PM ET]

    Is this the page you are talking about? If yes that means, I will have to wait for the link to show up 2/4/6/... weeks down the road, right?
  6. INPUT ON LIGHTNING ORDER - Fallback if no Pro available?

    For me it is go Pro or go home. Max tow and Tech package (mostly for 360 camera, trailer break controller) and 9 KW power and sprayed bed. $46K
  7. Pro Standard Features

    I hope this is not already posted somewhere else:
  8. ? 2022 F-150 Lightning Order Bank Playbook With Pricing! ? Ordering Begin 1/6, Build & Price Tomorrow 1/4!

    The document answered many questions but created new ones: How much do these things usually cost? and which one would you pick, why? Why is standard range battery has the same payload as Extender even though it is 500 Ib lighter? Anyone knows when we will get estimated delivery time? Is it...
  9. Ford email confirms F-150 Lightning orders starting at “beginning of the new year”

    Can someone clearify see if I understand this right? Do I need to get Max tow package to get enough cooling for 7700 lb towing on Pro, or standard cooling is enough for it? If I am towing , the only way to get trailer break controller is getting the tow tech package, right? Is Ford Pass with...
  10. F150 Lightning Livestream (12/16) – Q&A, Specs & Infographics

    I do appreciate the warning. I will make sure not to get used to it ;)
  11. F150 Lightning Livestream (12/16) – Q&A, Specs & Infographics

    I don’t get the obsession with push button or lack of a button. EVs that are mostly a tablet with wheels, freak me out. My tablet is more in charge than I am. It has a personality disorder and every update is a crapshoot that may break any number of apps. One of the things I like about Pro...
  12. F150 Lightning Livestream (12/16) – Q&A, Specs & Infographics

    Before I switched my dealer, I asked Ford if this will push me back in line and they said no my delivery time will not be impacted. It is late here and I must be doing something wrong. At 13c per KWh Lightening cost me 30c per mile. A 20 mpg ICE at $3.0 per gallon cost me 15c per mile. What...
  13. What should I do to get a timely Lightning order in?

    The sales man that called me after my reservation was asking me what kind of Engine I am interested in for my F150? If I would like to go with Ecoboost? And this was after 15 minutes of me talking about charging ramp, battery capacity Fronk and dual motor. I wish all manufacturers sell their...
  14. Ordered 2022 Lightning - My Experience

    Do you happen to have a sample of what it looks like?
  15. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    You are correct. I don’t get your drift. I don’t see how a dealer auctioning off top spots to someone out of state or in state will accomplish that. Ford could easily accomplish even distribution by using reservation holder’s address and communicating to them that your time stamp is not the...
  16. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    It is a bad thing anyway you look at it. If a dealership in California sells it bellow MSRP and one in VA lose business because of it, they will sell bellow MSRP as well. Competitive market is good for consumer.
  17. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    Remember it is Ford that has enabled this with the whole priority crap.
  18. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    If this is true, it helps me greatly with my choices. $56K pro fall of 2023 means cancellation for me.
  19. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    As bad as the market is, this is not the only option. Folks are already disgusted by the dealer experience. My Rivian will likely be ready around the same time as my Lightning, if my Lightning spot is honored. If I don’t get my F150 in time, dealer won’t lose much but I will simply be driving...


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