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  1. Read before you order! Expect 50% range loss in winter in Northern states.

    Tesla loses a lot of range in the cold, all EV's do. They'll gain it back as battery heats up with use. The heat pumps some have help when you drive over 30 miles and there is waste heat to use to heat battery. But the 40% estimate is a good one. Got to work one day (50 mile one way) with...
  2. Where do you think I’ll fall in delivery wise?

    As it says CONTACT DEALER. Your reservation date has nothing to do with when you'll get the vehicle. It's all about which dealer you chose and how they prioritize customers and how much they'll charge. I'm first day reservation but chose the "wrong" dealer so I'm in 2024 sometime, maybe. When...
  3. Lightning vs R1T - Timing and cost

    Those of us with pre March 1 Rivian orders can flip for $20-$30k. With Ford likely running out of the EV tax credit by '24 when dealer tells me I'll see my first day reservation order will show up, I can likely buy and flip that for $5k, same premium we see now on Kia EV6's. The dealers are...
  4. Hummer EV Review from Throttle House

    Lotta friends with monster lifted pickups. If I could afford the Hummer, it would be the bomb. I could crush them all.
  5. Disappointment Thursday

    First day reservation and I didn't even get the promo emails...but I might have unsubscribed.
  6. Adaptive Headlights?

    Best adaptive would be being able to aim lower when towing. Always get flashed towing as people think you have high beams on and that means it is in their eyes and limiting their vision, not safe.
  7. Study Finds Greater Greenhouse Gas Reductions For EV Pickup Trucks Than Light-Duty Vehicles

    "based on the average U.S. grid" All utilities offer sustainable zero emissions energy which then shows the EV's reduce emissions 90% vs. similar ICE vehicles. Also, all the new battery plants and EV mfg plants going in are zero net emissions which pushes the EV's reduction into the 100%...
  8. Missed out on 2022 because dealer lied to me about my reservation, what now?

    It turns out there was no reservation system. It all turned on what dealer you selected, what their allocation was and how they assigned the orders. Also a Day One reservation but I'm 35/25 so likely '24 some time which is about when I'd expect my Rivian reservation (actual in line...
  9. How fair is it, really, to be upset at Ford?

    Only thing Ford did wrong was not honoring the reservations.
  10. Ford F150 Lightning 2022 Sold out

    Mines from the 19th and I'm around 20,000. With Ford only shipping 15,000 in 2022, most with reservations are '23 and '24.
  11. Lightning vs R1T - Timing and cost

    And mine was Feb 12, 2022. I'm asking Rivian if it is in their interest to swap the four motor drive/300 mile Explore for $67k to a two motor AWD/400 mile Explore. Hope they do that as the range is more important to me than the mountain goat four motors. Their answer will give an indication...
  12. Lightning vs R1T - Timing and cost

    Not upscale in the luxury sense, upscale in the offroad sense. The four motor drives, the high ground clearance, the 400 mile range, the camping tools. I know a lot of mountain cyclers that drive Tacomas rigged like that. "The Tacoma is not only a stalwart of the midsize truck segment but...
  13. Lightning vs R1T - Timing and cost

    But many are so and it is the same net effect as Rivian's price increase. Demand for EV vehicles is high.
  14. Lightning vs R1T - Timing and cost

    If it makes Ford more profitable, markets usually reward profitability. Workers pay will increase also as it should if the products they build create more profits. Dealerships make about 8% on MSRP so increase in price increases dealerships gross profits also.
  15. Lightning vs R1T - Timing and cost

    Uh...no since dealers are doing exactly that, raising prices $10k.
  16. Lightning vs R1T - Timing and cost

    Bigger company with more control on suppliers most likely. Rivian is such low volume that it has less control on vendors plus smaller quantity orders. I got my Adventure price back to original going dual motor and 260 mile range. I'm still a looking at '24 (even though first day depositor for...
  17. Lightning vs R1T - Timing and cost

    Somewhat same boat but just made Rivian reservation a month ago. Basic Explore model no options was $67k and went to $82k with std features now options. Or more correctly the base Model Explore was derated to dual motor, 275 mile range with just Silver as no cost option and switch to black...
  18. Range Without Payload?

    For those with range anxiety with load, the F150's work range will probably match the Rivian's. "Rivian R1T Towing Test: 9,000 pounds on the hitch for over 150 miles" Saw a red F150 EV at the car show today. Gorgeous. They had identical F150 Hybrid parked next to it. $79k which is likley...
  19. Wave 6 hopes??? Put me out of misery!

    Silverado is at Tonkin and F150 is a Damerow. I got an intro email from Tonkin. I'll ask where I am on the list. I made it just a few weeks ago so no great expectations. Damerow has me 35/25 so I'd expect I'll be 15/15 + their '23 allocation, late '23 early '24. Rivian, no idea but...


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