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  1. Oxford White & Atlas Blue F-150 Lightning XLT Spotted

    I think it's just a result of the shutter speed of the camera and the frequency of the flicker of the lights.
  2. Ford aims to double EV production capacity in 2 years, Farley says

    Not in the short term but this should help. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/cars/ford-globalfoundries/index.html
  3. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    I see we have went from > climate change is a hoax > climate change is real but caused by sunspots > climate change is real and might be caused by humans but too expensive to fix > climate change is real and might be caused by humans but China blah, blah, blah > back to climate change is a hoax...
  4. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    No. Scientists never thought the world was flat. That was religions. They were in control of everything. Please read up on it.
  5. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    This might actually be not too far off. In the late 1800s it was described how CO2 influences the climate and that burning fossil fuels could lead to a global warming. When a prediction of another ice age was coming some were hoping greenhouse gases might help to avoid it. Maybe they got what...
  6. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    Consensus among scientists? Yes. Among everyone else? Of course not.
  7. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    From COP26 "Secure global net zero by mid-century and keep 1.5 degrees within reach"
  8. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    I chose (and my wife) not to have kids. I subsidize (big time) those who do. I have no problem with it because I see the benefit to society.
  9. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    Actually both terms are still used in the scientific world. Global warming causes climate change.
  10. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    Sarcasm aside you could put a dozen nobel prize winning economists in a room together and they wouldn't all agree (yet they all could be right).
  11. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    Prius crowd? Prius not looking/feeling like a normal car? Man you guys are showing your true colors. I live on a farm and have been driving a Prius since 2006. Is that the crowd you're talking about? Just last week I had to pick up something 10' long and was fragile. Used my Prius instead of the...
  12. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    So are EVs similar or cheaper than Ice vehicles or is only one trim level from one model from one manufacturer close in price? Honestly want to know. My only factual evidence is when my wife bought her Prius Prime which was more expensive than the non-PHEV version. That was apples to apples. I...
  13. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    "But an F150 Lightning Pro is priced competitively with ICE equivalent. That basically how this forum exists." Yes competitive but still more. MSRP for 2022 Ford ICE F-150 has a base price of $29,640 to over $80,000. The 2022 SuperCrew Hybrid starts at $37,350. Like I said the masses will buy...
  14. Uh, Oh... looks like the EV tax credits are hitting an obstacle

    Yes EVs will sell now without tax incentives only because so few are being built and there are enough enthusiasts/earlier adopters. To sell to the masses they will have to be priced the same or cheaper than ICE vehicles.
  15. F-150 Lightning EV Tax Credits & Rebates - Discussions & Predictions

    In Wisconsin we have a registration surcharge on EV's and Hybrids. It would make more sense if it was just based on mpg or mpge (and weight) instead of what the vehicle is called. There are some hybrids that get lousy mpg and some regular ICE vehicles that get quite good mpg.
  16. F-150 Lightning EV Tax Credits & Rebates - Discussions & Predictions

    "all borrowed on the backs of future generations"? I'm guessing he doesn't care too much about future generations. Ted
  17. F-150 aerodynamics modeling

    It would be nice if they tested the aerodynamics of a standard tonneau cover and compared it to the "sport back".
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