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  1. F-150 Lightning's Estimated Driving Range Shows Incredible 472 Miles

    Not exactly an accurate comparison between how the "range feature" works on the Tesla 3 vs the Mach E(or Lightning). Ford has been very open and focused on making the range accurate and consistent from beginning of your drive to the end. Ford has said the range estimate takes into account the...
  2. 2021 F-150 Lightning With Extended Battery May Get ~460 Miles Range, Unloaded!

    Ford is now not confirming the "1000lb load" on the EPA test...but in the past Darren Palmer has been quoted saying this information to at least two independent sources. This is again another "test truck" showing 400+ miles. This is backed up in pictures--this time a REAL picture, not a fake...
  3. Tesla opening Superchargers to other automakers this year.

    Could also be battery reliability or safety issues. Ford is(has always been) very conservative with batteries. Could be they don't feel comfortable that rapid of a charge, either risk of fire or risk of early failure. Last thing Ford wants/needs is a "bolt" type situation with things catching on...
  4. PB F-150 lariat vs Cybertruck triple motor

    Saving this for anyone trying to compare a Lightning to a CT. Very rarely does Elon follow through with his promises. Finding it hard to believe he's gonna undercut Ford on price and offer that much more range in the sub $100K market. Elon loves to change things up( and usually NOT to the...
  5. Tesla opening Superchargers to other automakers this year.

    As a related but slightly different topic...anyone wondering why Ford didn't plan for 800v(350kW?) vs the more common 400v(150KW?) charging on the Lightning? The new Kia ev6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5 suposedly 350KW and will got 10-80% in about 20min. Many(most) of the new Electrify America stations...
  6. Choosing your dealer

    I prefer to get my invoices from an unbiased 3rd party source. Although it may not be 100% correct(tied to a particular VIN#) its usually pretty close.
  7. $12,500 tax credit possible?

    I think it goes further than that. If our intent is to get EVs on the road in significant numbers quickly for environmental purposes.. simply choosing an electric over an ICE at purchase time is not enough. Cars last longer and longer, people keep cars longer due to reliability and replacement...
  8. Revolutionary: Love This Lightning EV Commercial!

    I really dig Ford's direction here. More importantly, I think it is a very smart business decision. Ford has decided to electrify the classics so they can ride the wave of nostalgia and repeat customers. There are many that are brand loyalists..esp if they had good experience with a previous...
  9. $12,500 tax credit possible?

    Yes...because I'm the one who has gone out of the way to make this political every step of the way. Silly me.
  10. $12,500 tax credit possible?

    Yeah...I guess we'll have to wait and see. <rolls eyes> This isn't a demand thing, its a climate thing. AS far as needing a subsidy, I find it odd you'd say sucha thing when ICE vehicles vastly outnumber BEVs and will continue to do so in the immediate future. We are still several years away...
  11. $12,500 tax credit possible?

    Food for thought... Most of the proposals are still pushing the $80000 cap limit for the tax incentives. Ford would be wise to make sure at least the Lariet+ skates just under that limit. The tentative pricing guide had it at $79,474. In a perfect world Ford would squeeze all versions in there...
  12. $12,500 tax credit possible?

    Based upon the draft legislation of S.395 (The Electric CARS Act of 2021) the intent is to make the credit refundable or carried forward. I have not seen the text of "reconciliation" bill, so I guess they could have changed it, but at least initially the goal was to have it refundable. (I did...
  13. 2021 F-150 Lightning With Extended Battery May Get ~460 Miles Range, Unloaded!

    I'll go a step further... upon further review(examination) the photo they used is a canned photo from FoMo Co. You can find the photo on Ford's website. So either the inside EV guys pulled a fast one, or they were given the photo by ford for their use. (Either way they seemed to give the...
  14. 2021 F-150 Lightning With Extended Battery May Get ~460 Miles Range, Unloaded!

    Food for thought..I was watching a video review on INside EVs of a media test ride in a prototype Lightning. They were taken on the std media course-- high speed oval, trailer test, off road course. They did NOT really discuss range other than repeat the std EPA range 230/300mi. All old news...
  15. Tesla opening Superchargers to other automakers this year.

    FWIW I'm seeing a lot of Electrify America chargers pop up along the East Coast. There are some at truck stops, but I noticed a lot are being installed in Wal mart parking lots.(Out front, easy access--not by the dumpster) To me this is smart...as there is plenty of space and they can be easily...
  16. $12,500 tax credit possible?

    My opinion is if the US is going to get serious about EV adoption we have to convince people to trade in their gas cars for Evs. It won't simply be enough for EVs to be competitive when they intend to replace, the government has to make them see it as good deal to trade in their ICE car early...
  17. Order bank opening date for Lightning

    That's good to know. I wouldn't get fixated on specific numbers... but should give you are idea. If Bronco and Mach-e orders remain a constant.. then it gives us a rough idea how things are progressing along. But thanks for the info...I did not know it was for ALL models.
  18. $12,500 tax credit possible?

    I notice no one gives a shit about spending when we give massive tax breaks to the richest 1%, corporate welfare and endless war in the Middle East. Somehow when we need to actually give the middle class something, everyone wants to talk about how we can't afford it... Unlike those item...
  19. $12,500 tax credit possible?

    Oh great..this BS again. Let's end corporate welfare and oil subsidies and then we can talk.
  20. Order bank opening date for Lightning

    It appears like reservation started around #10800000


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