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Odd they mention 3.55 rear end when not available on a 5.0L.

Thats terrible.

Ancient history but max tow had 4 in MY2009 until I beleive job 2 MY2010. Then back to 3.

I though a few more hdpp payload #s would roll in by now. Preferably 4wd and 3.5L EB. Hard to find at dealers too.

Two SD options I wish F150s had: uplifter switches and 5th wheel prep.

Wow only 3,800 whereas the other thread had a 21 hdpp (2wd,) with rear gawr of 4,800lbs.

No adding tremor grill to other F150 trims. Different hood, no curve. Interesting

My bad, I meant 3.73 w the 3.5 EB. Then only way is via HDPP. I need max payload to allow for higher towing so thats only engine I'm considering.

I still maintain u can't get 3.73 without hdpp. There is a glitch w b&p, may be corrected by now? But according to the last order guide I looked at not possible.

So I haven't seen a XLT non led in person yet. Is the front turn amber 'strip' between high and low headlights actually orange or is that a reflection from the orange bulb inside it? Some pics looks one way, others the other option. Thx.

Ahhh no hdpp ok that makes sense then. I was just speaking to hdpp. And I didn't know that wheel was available w non hdpp. Interesting.

Order guide only lists LT265/70R18. Even tire rack when u choose 21 hdpp only lists 265. I wasn't too worried as I always lose shipping tires, would upgrade to LT275/70R18s. Would look better and I get the tire I really want.

Are you sure. Used to be but they changed for MY21. Every source including dealer says 265/70R18 inc 4wd for 21.

Thx for pics. Be nice to see payload # w 4wd.

Looks to be a 2wd. That also aids payload #. I'm strongly considering a similar unit w 4wd. No real advantage going w only other trim option low/mid xlt with exception of power drivers seat. I can add that w dealer and skip chrome. Any pics of actual truck? I've seen one to date and those 265s...

I recall 2.7L EB and max tow = 9.75 but not heavier frame.

Really want to see that payload #.

But remember the 2013 had 6 gears not 10. Not direct comparison. Ford did allow u 3.73 without max tow on 5.0Ls up until this year. In fact 2021 is first MY with max tow and 5.0L compatibility. Whats interesting and news to me is ford allows 3.73 with max tow (only w 6.5s if B&P is right)...

All shipping tires. First thing I do is swap em out.

Once u see it on the chart sure does stick out. Has 3 73s so thats the HDPP. Probably right then