Great summary: Using 7.2 Pro Power to power your house during an outage + why you cannot disconnect the ground!

Hullguy · Jan 13, 2023

last section discusses powering your house

Yves · Jan 13, 2023

Interesting to now understand the difference between the three system generators and the way they work.

Meterman · Jan 13, 2023

great video and explanation of amp and wattage math.

astrand1 · Jan 13, 2023

Well to be fair. You “Can” disconnect the ground. Of course you’re not supposed to but it can be done. Until I get around to wiring things differently this is how I’m doing it and the house and the truck work just fine. I back feed into a 50amp outlet that I already have installed and to me the most important thing way over and above worries about dropping the ground from the truck is making sure that the mains are disconnected so that there is absolutely no chance that there could be back feeding into the grid. So I have a checklist that I go thru to make sure that can’t happen. Other than that this truck is amazing at being able to do what it does.

HammaMan · Jan 13, 2023

Hullguy said:
last section discusses powering your house

The vid has absolutely zero to do with disconnecting the ground -- he states "don't do it".

Explain what's wrong in this image....

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HammaMan · Jan 13, 2023

Furthermore, there was nothing in the video regarding floating the ground at the incoming receptacle. There's substantial misunderstanding about what the ground is / what it does. The reasoning is the same as to why the utility doesn't provide ground.

I already know your response, and you already know mine @Hullguy --- what safety issue is present by floating / isolating the ground at the incoming plug to the structure, and what magic condition is present that makes the same from the utility side "safe" while at the same time stating the floating ground is unsafe with the shoe on the other foot. Fully aware of code -- there are other codes like it's illegal to cool a pie on your window sill on Sunday, or missionary is the only legal way to get it on, etc....

It's a legitimate question that I'd like you to answer. Thanks!

Aron · Jan 13, 2023

Hullguy said:
last section discusses powering your house

Great video, thanks! I subscribed to his channel because it turns out that he has all kinds of videos related to PowerBoost F150s. Nice find!

astrand1 · Jan 13, 2023

Aron said:
Great video, thanks! I subscribed to his channel because it turns out that he has all kinds of videos related to PowerBoost F150s. Nice find!

He’s pretty interesting. He’s not big on forscan and would rather use resisters on bulbs. I made a comment on his YouTube page and he was nice and responded because I was trying to clear up some possible confusion.

GEN14OWNER · Jan 13, 2023

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"Hello Ford?"

Kodiak · Jan 14, 2023

Outstanding video creator. Ford should say "Give us back your XLT PB and we will trade it for a Platinum PB". Just have him focus a number of videos on the PB and how it all works and call it even.

Hullguy · Jan 14, 2023

astrand1 said:
Well to be fair. You “Can” disconnect the ground. Of course you’re not supposed to but it can be done. Until I get around to wiring things differently this is how I’m doing it and the house and the truck work just fine. I back feed into a 50amp outlet that I already have installed and to me the most important thing way over and above worries about dropping the ground from the truck is making sure that the mains are disconnected so that there is absolutely no chance that there could be back feeding into the grid. So I have a checklist that I go thru to make sure that can’t happen. Other than that this truck is amazing at being able to do what it does.

Yeah you can if you you don’t mind putting your family in danger.

astrand1 · Jan 14, 2023

Hullguy said:
Yeah you can if you you don’t mind putting your family in danger.

Not just for me but for everyone else here. Can you expand on how the house/family is in “danger”

Hullguy · Jan 14, 2023

HammaMan said:
Furthermore, there was nothing in the video regarding floating the ground at the incoming receptacle. There's substantial misunderstanding about what the ground is / what it does. The reasoning is the same as to why the utility doesn't provide ground.

I already know your response, and you already know mine @Hullguy --- what safety issue is present by floating / isolating the ground at the incoming plug to the structure, and what magic condition is present that makes the same from the utility side "safe" while at the same time stating the floating ground is unsafe with the shoe on the other foot. Fully aware of code -- there are other codes like it's illegal to cool a pie on your window sill on Sunday, or missionary is the only legal way to get it on, etc....

It's a legitimate question that I'd like you to answer. Thanks!

First time I ever had an electrical question referenced to a pie!

The Utility does provide a ground at their transformer. You have to to stabilize the voltages. You can go to the pole that supports the transformer to see this.
if you float the ground at the truck it becomes an open circuit. Basic electrical/electronics theory. if You feel that the connection at the panel between the neutral and ground provide this, how? There isn’t a connection between That ground and the truck.

Hullguy · Jan 14, 2023

astrand1 said:
Not just for me but for everyone else here. Can you expand on how the house/family is in “danger”

The ground circuit is removed from your system. A ground is designed in a short circuit to ground situation to provide shrugs amount of current instantly back to the circuit breaker causing it to trip. In most residential electrical systems your neutral and grounds are connected together at the panel. By removing the ground from the truck this ground wire can become live. This means if you are bringing the coffee pot over to rinse it out and turn the faucet on you could get electrocuted

astrand1 · Jan 14, 2023

Hullguy said:
The ground circuit is removed from your system. A ground is designed in a short circuit to ground situation to provide shrugs amount of current instantly back to the circuit breaker causing it to trip. In most residential electrical systems your neutral and grounds are connected together at the panel. By removing the ground from the truck this ground wire can become live. This means if you are bringing the coffee pot over to rinse it out and turn the faucet on you could get electrocuted

So then what about panels where the neutral and ground are not bonded? Of houses that don’t have grounds at many of the plugs because of older wiring?

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